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		<meneame:comment_id>7321314</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1096557</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--88439--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>32</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 Internet Explorer 9 pillado haciendo trampas en el test de SunSpider</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--88439--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1096557-14" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c014#c-14" rel="nofollow">#14</a> Bueno, si se cierra esta, pido que reabran la otra...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--88439--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>7321277</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1096557</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--87883--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>11</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 Internet Explorer 9 pillado haciendo trampas en el test de SunSpider</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--87883--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1096557-12" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c012#c-12" rel="nofollow">#12</a> ¿Qué importan los negativos si llevas la razón? Ésta ya no se va a recuperar, y además considero injusto que se pueda pues el que la envía debería leer el original y ver si se ajusta a la que menea. No digo que sea la noticia definitiva que marque una época, pero vaya, ahora se queda sin oportunidad. <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/tongue.png" alt=":-P" title=":-P" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--87883--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>7321254</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1096557</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Canseco</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 Internet Explorer 9 pillado haciendo trampas en el test de SunSpider</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Canseco</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>&#34;Update: We have changed the title of the story as some commentators have rightly pointed out the previous one was too biased.&#34;<br />
<br />
¿Mejor así el titular?<br />
<br />
&#34;Did Internet Explorer 9 Cheat In The SunSpider Benchmark?&#34;</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Canseco</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>7321182</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1096557</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--88439--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 Internet Explorer 9 pillado haciendo trampas en el test de SunSpider</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--88439--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1096557-11" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c011#c-11" rel="nofollow">#11</a> Porque pasa lo de siempre, que luego se empieza con lo de 'dupe' y demás. Me lo ahorro y au <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/tongue.png" alt=":-P" title=":-P" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--88439--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>7321172</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1096557</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--87883--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>11</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Internet Explorer 9 pillado haciendo trampas en el test de SunSpider</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--87883--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1096557-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> ¿Y por qué has descartado ese enlace? Sobre todo siendo esa la original.<br />
<br />
Evidentemente este ingeniero no puede demostrar que IE haga trampas, el código propietario es lo que tiene, pero es un rato sospechoso y decir que lo más probable es que sea &#34;un error&#34; (que tampoco puede ser probado) me parece casi tan arriesgado como decir directamente que son trampas. Eso solo M$ lo sabe.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--87883--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>7321125</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1096557</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>MycroftHolmes</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>27</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Internet Explorer 9 pillado haciendo trampas en el test de SunSpider</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>MycroftHolmes</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1096557-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> No veo yo claro ver pornotube en lynx. Nunca mejor dicho <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>MycroftHolmes</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>7321111</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1096557</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--82899--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Internet Explorer 9 pillado haciendo trampas en el test de SunSpider</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--82899--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--82899--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>7321016</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1096557</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>MycroftHolmes</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>40</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Internet Explorer 9 pillado haciendo trampas en el test de SunSpider</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>MycroftHolmes</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1096557-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a> Bueno, ya pensandolo, no se que me da mas miedo <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
<br />
- Optimizaron a lo bruto para ESE benchmark, y les pillaron con el carrito del helado<br />
<br />
- Tienen ese error de concepto, que te lleva a pensar ¿que otros errores tendrán?<br />
<br />
Si es que donde esté Lynx...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>MycroftHolmes</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>7321012</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1096557</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--51656--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>11</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Internet Explorer 9 pillado haciendo trampas en el test de SunSpider</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--51656--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>&#34;..With this revelation, I cannot help but wonder if Microsoft did something like this in their HTML5 Demos where Internet Explorer 9 beats Google Chrome hands down.<br />
What do you think?&#34;<br />
<img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/roll.gif" alt=":roll:" title=":roll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--51656--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>7320993</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1096557</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Fingolfin</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Internet Explorer 9 pillado haciendo trampas en el test de SunSpider</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:55:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Fingolfin</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Simplemente han optimizado a lo bestia para parecer rápidos. Algo que también hace Webkit...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Fingolfin</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>7320984</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1096557</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--88439--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>31</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Internet Explorer 9 pillado haciendo trampas en el test de SunSpider</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--88439--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1096557-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a> Sí. Afirmar categoricamente que hizo trampas cuando no se tienen pruebas es algo sensacionalista/erróneo. Es mejor hacer lo que hace el artículo original, dar las opciones por las que podría ocurrir (tanto que se han hecho trampas como que falla el benchmark).<br />
<br />
Claro que como es Microsoft, el sensacionalismo es 'pasable'.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--88439--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>7320972</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1096557</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>MycroftHolmes</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Internet Explorer 9 pillado haciendo trampas en el test de SunSpider</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>MycroftHolmes</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1096557-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> A la opción 3 me refería yo. Es un poco sensacionalista, cuando lo más probable (mucho mas que la primera) es que simplemente metieran la gamba con la caché. De todas formas, es lo que dice el artículo &#34;¿Como coño han diseñado eso?&#34;</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>MycroftHolmes</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>7320950</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1096557</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--88439--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>30</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Internet Explorer 9 pillado haciendo trampas en el test de SunSpider</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--88439--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>La meneé hace unos instantes <a href="http://www.meneame.net/story/hizo-internet-explorer-9-trampas-benchmark-sunspider" title="www.meneame.net/story/hizo-internet-explorer-9-trampas-benchmark-sunspider" rel="nofollow">www.meneame.net/story/hizo-internet-explorer-9-trampas-benchmark-sunsp</a>, meneando la fuente original. Esta solo es el eco que se hace slashdot de la noticia, donde se manipula el titular y la noticia completamente.<br />
<br />
No se ha pillado al navegador haciendo trampas, sino que se pregunta si la razón por la que Internet Explorer saliera mejor parado en cierto benchmark era una trampa. con las 'modificaciones', la noticia queda de lo más sensacionalista. El texto original:<br />
<br />
There are three possible explanation for this weird result from Internet Explorer:<br />
<br />
<i>   1.<br />
 Microsoft cheated by optimizing Internet Explorer 9 solely to ace the SunSpider Bechmark. To me, this seems like the best explanation.<br />
   2.<br />
 Microsoft engineers working on Internet Explorer 9 could have been using the SunSpider Benchmark and unintentionally over-optimized the JavaScript engine for the SunSpider Benchmark. This seems very unlikely to me.<br />
   3.<br />
 A third option (suggested in Hacker News) might be that this is an actual bug and adding these trivial codes disaligns cache tables and such throwing off the performance entirely. If this is the reason, it raises a serious question about the robustness of the engine.</i><br />
<br />
Si se modifica para mostrar la realidad del texto original, tiene mi meneo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--88439--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>7320925</meneame:comment_id>
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		<title>#2 Internet Explorer 9 pillado haciendo trampas en el test de SunSpider</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Que grande!!!<br />
De todas formas, a mi me da que es más la tercera opción que plantea el original: &#34;que tenga un bug que haga que falle el cacheo de JavaScript&#34;, que también es para reirse...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>MycroftHolmes</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#1 Internet Explorer 9 pillado haciendo trampas en el test de SunSpider</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/internet-explorer-9-pillado-haciendo-trampas-test-sunspider/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--138914--</strong></p>]]></description>
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