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	<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<meneame:comment_id>11489341</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1719961</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Kobardo</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 Alemania oriental: el lugar más sin Dios de la Tierra [ing]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 16:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kobardo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1719961-10" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c010#c-10" rel="nofollow">#10</a> Ahí está lo que digo, si al empadronarse, se declaran católicos, tengo entendido que tienen que pagar una tasa a la iglesia. Lo cual hace que gente siendo católica, se declare atea para no pagar, pero en realidad sí que van a misa y demás &#34;mamandurrias&#34;. <br />
La noticia que enlazo yo explica que los que no se declaren católicos para no pagar no podrán recibir los sacramentos. Supongo que la comunión y el bautizo sí lo darán porque son niños <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Kobardo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>11486929</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1719961</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>K_os</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Alemania oriental: el lugar más sin Dios de la Tierra [ing]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 11:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>K_os</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Monesvol les castigará</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>K_os</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>11486920</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1719961</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>sunes</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>11</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Alemania oriental: el lugar más sin Dios de la Tierra [ing]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 11:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sunes</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1719961-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> Para nada... yo flipo los domingos por mi barrio de Alemania del Este. Veo más gente ir a misa que cuando estaba en Espanha...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>sunes</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>11486562</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1719961</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Kobardo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Alemania oriental: el lugar más sin Dios de la Tierra [ing]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 11:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kobardo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>mmmmm, ¿puede ser porque si se declaran católicos tienen que pagar una tasa?<br />
<a href="http://www.meneame.net/story/catolicos-alemanes-no-paguen-impuesto-eclesiastico-no-recibiran" title="www.meneame.net/story/catolicos-alemanes-no-paguen-impuesto-eclesiastico-no-recibiran" rel="nofollow">www.meneame.net/story/catolicos-alemanes-no-paguen-impuesto-eclesiasti</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Kobardo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>11486436</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1719961</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>estefani</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Alemania oriental: el lugar más sin Dios de la Tierra [ing]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 10:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>estefani</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1719961-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> &#34;Religiosos, lo lleváis crudo con Europa. &#34;<br />
¿También en Polonia, Rusia, Rumanía, Bulgaria...?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>estefani</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>11486394</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1719961</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Krisiskekrisis</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>35</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Alemania oriental: el lugar más sin Dios de la Tierra [ing]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 10:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Krisiskekrisis</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Para creer en el capitalismo hay que ser muy creyente.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Krisiskekrisis</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>11486376</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1719961</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--321416--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Alemania oriental: el lugar más sin Dios de la Tierra [ing]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 10:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--321416--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1719961-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> iba a poner ambos: the eastern part of Germany has an identity which – almost a quarter of a century on – continues to make unification more difficult than expected. Religious confession, or rather the lack of it, plays an important role in this. This has led some to talk of East German atheism as a form of continuing political and regional identification.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--321416--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>11486365</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1719961</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Noeschachi</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Alemania oriental: el lugar más sin Dios de la Tierra [ing]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 10:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Noeschachi</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1719961-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a> Justamente viene a decir que la represión no toco de lleno a la Iglesia y que los pastores tenían cierta independencia. Quizás es el matiz que ha provocado una situación tan distinta a la de Polonia, pero en el párrafo que has pegado desmonta su propio argumento.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Noeschachi</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>11486336</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1719961</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--321416--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Alemania oriental: el lugar más sin Dios de la Tierra [ing]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 10:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--321416--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:1719961-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> a mí me parece bien explicado: Different reasons are adduced for the absence of religion in the east. The first one that is usually brought out is the fact that that area was run by the <b>Communist party</b> from<b> 1945 to 1990</b> and that its explicit hostility to religion meant that it was largely stamped out. However, this is not entirely the case. In fact, <b>after initial hostilities</b> in the first years of the GDR, the SED came to a relatively comfortable accommodation with what was called the <b>Church in Socialism</b>. The churches in the GDR were given a high degree of autonomy by SED standards and indeed became the organisational focus of the dissident movement of the 1990s, which was to some extent led by Protestant pastors.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--321416--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>11486325</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1719961</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Noeschachi</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Alemania oriental: el lugar más sin Dios de la Tierra [ing]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 10:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Noeschachi</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>El artículo hace aguas intentando explicar la situación en base al pasado comunista, lo único que tiene fuste es la asociación que hace con una especie de identidad nacional del este. Es la misma situación que Polonia con su fiebre católica postcomunista pero a la inversa, tiene mucho de componente identitario.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Noeschachi</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>11486321</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1719961</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--341687--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>18</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Alemania oriental: el lugar más sin Dios de la Tierra [ing]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 10:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--341687--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><i>Secularisation processes are under way throughout the continent and the role of religion and the church in modernity are being questioned everywhere, from gay marriage to women priests to abortion and on to whether the EU should identify itself as a Christian entity. The question should perhaps be whether it is actually folk atheism that represents the future of Europe.</i><br />
<br />
Es que ya nadie aguanta que le digan cómo tiene que vivir.<br />
<br />
Religiosos, lo lleváis crudo con Europa.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--341687--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>11486309</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>1719961</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--341415--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>15</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Alemania oriental: el lugar más sin Dios de la Tierra [ing]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2012 10:45:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--341415--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/alemania-oriental-lugar-mas-sin-dios-tierra-ing/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¡Esto es un sindiós!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--341415--</strong></p>]]></description>
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