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		<title>#20 Los mortíferos arcabuces</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 21:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<meneame:karma>16</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#19 Los mortíferos arcabuces</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c019#c-19</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 13:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Siempre me quedaré sorprendido con el vocabulario que maneja El Amo del Castillo. Qué envidia.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--398438--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14654813</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>18</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>mariopg</meneame:user>
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		<title>#18 Los mortíferos arcabuces</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c018#c-18</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 13:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Voto a tal!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>mariopg</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14654631</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>Peazo_galgo</meneame:user>
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		<title>#17 Los mortíferos arcabuces</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c017#c-17</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 12:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peazo_galgo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c017#c-17</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Y no sólo eran temibles para la caballería. También hacían bonitas escabechinas con densos cuadros de infantería. Así pasó con los cuadros suizos a manos de bien protegidos y fortificados arcabuceros españoles (muy importante esto) en la batalla de Bicoca. Y sí, de ahí viene tan antigua expresión puesto que en esas circunstancias lo tuvimos chupado <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Peazo_galgo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14654503</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>angelitoMagno</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>22</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#16 Los mortíferos arcabuces</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 11:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>angelitoMagno</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2169252-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> A fe mía que es así.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>angelitoMagno</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#15 Los mortíferos arcabuces</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 11:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14654458</meneame:comment_id>
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		<title>#14 Los mortíferos arcabuces</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 11:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--428769--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14654412</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>ibaed</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 Los mortíferos arcabuces</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 11:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ibaed</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2169252-12" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c012#c-12" rel="nofollow">#12</a> algo más acerca de los &#34;callos de herradura&#34;. <br />
<a href="http://antoniobalduque.blogspot.com.es/2009/11/los-arcabuceros-de-madrid-oficios.html" title="antoniobalduque.blogspot.com.es/2009/11/los-arcabuceros-de-madrid-oficios.html" rel="nofollow">antoniobalduque.blogspot.com.es/2009/11/los-arcabuceros-de-madrid-ofic</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ibaed</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14654291</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>21</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#12 Los mortíferos arcabuces</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 10:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--428769--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--428769--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14654215</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>nacco</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Los mortíferos arcabuces</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 10:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>nacco</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>El arcabuz, ese arma cuyo secreto y durante más de un siglo espías y potencias extranjeras quisieron desvelar llegando a pensar que la razón de su eficacia había que buscarla en el río Manzanares, cuya agua se utilizaba en la forja del cañón y el ánima.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>nacco</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14654182</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--411800--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Los mortíferos arcabuces</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 10:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--411800--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2169252-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> sobre todo por lo de las balas</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--411800--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14654166</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Ddb</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Los mortíferos arcabuces</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 10:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ddb</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2169252-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> Es curioso ver la wiki en francés sobre la misma batalla...es eso de la que la historia la cuentan los que ganan.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Ddb</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14654142</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>15</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Los mortíferos arcabuces</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 10:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--428769--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--428769--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14654078</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>ElSobrinodeMarx</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>27</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Los mortíferos arcabuces</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 09:57:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ElSobrinodeMarx</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>No se si habéis tenido la oportunidad de disparar en una sección de fusileros pero el ruido de 20 fusiles disparando a la vez es atronador. Tal que si estás a 10-20 metros los oídos te pitan y no se oye nada.<br />
<br />
Imaginar filas de 200 arcabuces disparando a la vez, con un ruido mayor que el fusil moderno, con una nube de humo negra... no me gustaría estar en frente. <br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf9jVxFaKtA" title="www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf9jVxFaKtA" rel="nofollow">www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf9jVxFaKtA</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ElSobrinodeMarx</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14653882</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--152597--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>16</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Los mortíferos arcabuces</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 08:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--152597--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Los usaban mucho para matar  dragones</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--152597--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14653879</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2169252</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--219330--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Los mortíferos arcabuces</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 08:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--219330--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Atronadores son, almenos los que usan en las fiestas de moros y cristianos.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--219330--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>14653717</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2169252</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--44380--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>27</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Los mortíferos arcabuces</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 07:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--44380--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Nop, ha estado un rato en pendientes ;). Poco, eso si</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--44380--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14653692</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>mindframe</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>50</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Los mortíferos arcabuces</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 07:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mindframe</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/mortiferos-arcabuces/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Las entradas del Amo del Castillo van directamente a portada sin pasar por pendientes, verdad?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>mindframe</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>14653437</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--214483--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#2 Los mortíferos arcabuces</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2014 01:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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