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		<meneame:comment_id>19169418</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>Suikoden</meneame:user>
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		<title>#32 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Apr 2016 09:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2587929-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> Y el Sparta de Rotterdam, que es como ser del Rayo en la ciudad...xd:<br />
<br />
<a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparta_Rotterdam" title="es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparta_Rotterdam" rel="nofollow">es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparta_Rotterdam</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Suikoden</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>19148282</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>bolado111</meneame:user>
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		<title>#31 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c031#c-31</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>bolado111</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Grecia fue derrotada y todavia lo siguen pagando</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>bolado111</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>19144166</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>skyleth</meneame:user>
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		<title>#30 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c030#c-30</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Mar 2016 00:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>skyleth</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2587929-17" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c017#c-17" rel="nofollow">#17</a> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/professor.png" alt=":professor:" title=":professor:" width="18" height="24" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>skyleth</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>19142269</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>29</meneame:order>
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		<title>#29 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c029#c-29</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2016 18:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2587929-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> Pues eso, que no tienes ni idea. En algunos comentarios donde te responden, te iluminan un poco al respecto.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--89888--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>19140361</meneame:comment_id>
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		<title>#28 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c028#c-28</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2016 13:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lupus</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2587929-27" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c027#c-27" rel="nofollow">#27</a> Estos griegos... <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Lupus</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#27 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c027#c-27</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2016 13:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2587929-26" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c026#c-26" rel="nofollow">#26</a> Ahí se aprecia que los tebanos rompieron el flanco y les entraron a los espartanos por detrás <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/troll.png" alt=":troll:" title=":troll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--11417--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#26 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c026#c-26</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2016 12:34:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lupus</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>El artículo hace difícil hacerse una idea de como fué la batalla.<br />
<a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Battle_of_Leuctra,_371_BC_-_Decisive_action.svg/2000px-Battle_of_Leuctra,_371_BC_-_Decisive_action.svg.png" title="upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Battle_of_Leuctra,_371_BC_-_Decisive_action.svg/2000px-Battle_of_Leuctra,_371_BC_-_Decisive_action.svg.png" rel="nofollow">upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fa/Battle_of_Leuctra,_3</a><br />
En la imagen se aprecia bien la disposición.<br />
<br />
Pero más aún, lo que supuso esta batalla es que es la primera vez (al menos en occidente) que un comandante concentra las tropas en un flanco para ganar la superioridad local, lo que se ha repetido hasta hoy una y otra vez en cuando se quiere superar un frente, y la formación oblicua de la linea, para poder lucha con el flanco fuerte y rehusar el combate en el débil. Con esta batalla se pasa de disponer a los soldados para que venzan por numero o calidad a maniobrar con ellos acorde a un plan para explotar ventajas propias y debilidades ajenas. Posiblemente una de las batallas más importantes en lo que afecta a la evolución militar.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Lupus</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:user>Tensk</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada</meneame:url>
		<title>#25 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c025#c-25</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2016 12:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tensk</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c025#c-25</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Antigua, pero antigua, antigua...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Tensk</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>19139955</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada</meneame:url>
		<title>#24 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c024#c-24</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2016 12:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--234048--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c024#c-24</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--234048--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>19139926</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>23</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--501772--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada</meneame:url>
		<title>#23 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c023#c-23</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2016 12:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--501772--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2587929-14" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c014#c-14" rel="nofollow">#14</a> Antigua, antigua... Algunos que tiquismiquis sois, ¡eh! <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--501772--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>19139918</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>22</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--501772--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada</meneame:url>
		<title>#22 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c022#c-22</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2016 12:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--501772--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c022#c-22</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Los espartanos nunca fueron derrotados. ¡Eso es blasfemia!!!! <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/shame.png" alt="¬¬" title="¬¬ :shame:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
<br />
PD: Hasta que no lo confirme <a class='tooltip u:expertomilitar' href='/user/expertomilitar'>@expertomilitar</a> me niego a dar credito alguno a ello. <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/troll.png" alt=":troll:" title=":troll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--501772--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:user>faelomx</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada</meneame:url>
		<title>#21 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c021#c-21</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2016 11:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>faelomx</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c021#c-21</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>&#34;Lectura&#34; para disléxicos.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>faelomx</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:user>--282617--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada</meneame:url>
		<title>#20 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c020#c-20</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2016 11:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--282617--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c020#c-20</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2587929-13" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c013#c-13" rel="nofollow">#13</a> lo dice el nombre, te ba el ano. <br />
<br />
En la cara no porfa ...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--282617--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>19139709</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada</meneame:url>
		<title>#19 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c019#c-19</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2016 11:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--234048--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c019#c-19</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--234048--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>19139704</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>FileFlag</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada</meneame:url>
		<title>#18 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c018#c-18</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2016 11:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>FileFlag</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c018#c-18</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Interesante.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>FileFlag</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada</meneame:url>
		<title>#17 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2016 11:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2587929-12" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c012#c-12" rel="nofollow">#12</a> Y Barbuda</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>sifou</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#16 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2016 11:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--11417--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c016#c-16</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2587929-15" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c015#c-15" rel="nofollow">#15</a> Los catafractos eran una tanqueta con hueco abajo para las patas de los caballos <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
Aún así no era la norma en casi ningún sitio en ese periodo que la caballería fuese otra cosa que auxiliar y fuerza rápida para los flancos.<br />
<br />
Yo añadiría a los carros (egipcios, por ejemplo) como caballería que también era bastante efectiva.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--11417--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>19139641</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
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		<title>#15 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2016 11:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--66745--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2587929-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> Nones. Los catafractos selyúcidas -persas helenizados, herederos de Alejandro Magno- hicieron estragos. Y eso sin estribos que permitian cargar con muchas más potencia.<br />
<br />
De no ser por Escipión el Africano, Roma podría haber sido absorbida por el Imperio Helenístico y no al revés.<br />
<br />
<a href="https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batalla_de_Magnesia" title="es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batalla_de_Magnesia" rel="nofollow">es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batalla_de_Magnesia</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--66745--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:user>--413119--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>21</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#14 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2016 11:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--413119--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Joder... qué duda! ¿No debería votar &#34;antigua&#34;?{troll}</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--413119--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:user>kikoelnuevo</meneame:user>
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		<title>#13 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2016 09:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Se hace mención en el artículo al batallón sagrado tebano y me extraña que no se mencione que estaba compuesto por parejas de amantes que luchaban si cabe con más ardor por pavonearse ante su novio o por sacarlo de un fregado y no quedarse sin tema nocturno cuartelero.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>kikoelnuevo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#12 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2016 08:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Amenophis</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Antigua</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Amenophis</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#11 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2016 01:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tr13ce</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2587929-10" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c010#c-10" rel="nofollow">#10</a> &#34;Craso error&#34; <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Tr13ce</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#10 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2016 01:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tul</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2587929-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a> craso pensaba igual que tu <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/troll.png" alt=":troll:" title=":troll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>tul</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#9 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2016 21:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2587929-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a> Lo de la caballería númida era un auténtico circo, si ha existido alguna vez caballería irregular, era ésta. Los romanos no sabían por donde cogerles.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--11417--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#8 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2016 21:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Tr13ce</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2587929-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> En la antigüedad la caballería nunca llevó el peso de la batalla aunque los que supieron ver su polivalencia hicieron estragos, como los reyes macedonios (Filipo, Alejandro) y Aníbal. En cuanto las falanges macedonias quitaron importancia a la caballería fueron masacradas por las legiones. Aníbal fue arrasado en cuanto la caballería númida pasó de luchar a favor a luchar en contra.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Tr13ce</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#7 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2016 21:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--11417--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2587929-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> La caballería en la antigüedad era más un recurso de &#34;por si acaso&#34; que una fuerza asentada como llegó a serlo más adelante. El problema de los hoplitas era su pobre capacidad de maniobra debido al &#34;entrelazamiento&#34; de la formación, pero si el terreno era uniforme eran infranqueables. <br />
Mucho más adelante los romanos aprendieron a enfrentárseles en terrenos desiguales (no llanos) que rompían la homogeneidad de la formación (incluso de la mejorada falange macedónica) permitiendo entrar y romper las filas.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--11417--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#6 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2016 14:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>En la <i>Retirada de los 10.000</i> Jenofonte explica de primera mano la técnica de combate de la falange.<br />
<br />
Supongo que los jinetes peleaban sin estribos con lanzas cortas y en caballos de razas pequeñas, algo parecido a los mapuches y los indios de las praderas norteamericanas. Y que por la falta de estribos y la necesidad de armaduras livianas eran más ruido que nueces en comparación con un grupo bien organizado de hoplitas. Pero hablo sin tener idea de la caballería en la antigüedad.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--217613--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#5 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2016 14:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2587929-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> Me suena un Spartak del este de Europa.<br />
<br />
Edito: Ah, el Spartak de Moscú, por Espartaco. <a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Spartak_de_Moscú" title="es.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Spartak_de_Moscú" rel="nofollow">es.wikipedia.org/wiki/FC_Spartak_de_Moscú</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--217613--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#4 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2016 12:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Spuffy.es</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2587929-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> solo por buscarlo ya mereces un voto positivo <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Spuffy.es</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:user>Potopo</meneame:user>
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		<title>#3 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2016 12:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Potopo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2587929-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> a mi me sonaba por este <a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athletic_Club_Sparta_Praga" title="es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athletic_Club_Sparta_Praga" rel="nofollow">es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athletic_Club_Sparta_Praga</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Potopo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#2 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2016 12:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Spuffy.es</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2587929-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> sí, q yo sepa el Esparta f.c no existe, o igual si? <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/troll.png" alt=":troll:" title=":troll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Spuffy.es</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#1 Leuctra, Esparta es derrotada</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Mar 2016 12:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Potopo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/leuctra-esparta-derrotada/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Joder, el titular me dejó pensando ¿será una noticia de futbol?. Pero resulta que no, que es historia</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Potopo</strong></p>]]></description>
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