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		<meneame:comment_id>21222582</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>51</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Zsusanna</meneame:user>
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		<title>#51 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c051#c-51</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 20:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Zsusanna</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-50" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c050#c-50" rel="nofollow">#50</a> estoy de acuerdo contigo las velas de papel están por delante del mástil con lo que no deja que se abomben y añadir que son como de &#34;papel cebolla&#34; que es algo poroso.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Zsusanna</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21221461</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>50</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Garbns</meneame:user>
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		<title>#50 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c050#c-50</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 16:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Garbns</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>otro fallo que veo, es que el experimento no se ajusta a la realidad:<br />
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a) las velas (rectas) están por delante del mástil por lo que no permite que se abomben como un barco a vela y solo dirige el aire hacia los dados <br />
b) las velas son rígidas <br />
<br />
Cuando pone un cartón abombado simulando las velas (con el mástil por detrás) si empieza a moverse, por lo que &#34;los dibujos&#34; tienen razón <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/tongue.png" alt=":-P" title=":-P" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Garbns</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21221353</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>49</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--324579--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>11</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#49 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c049#c-49</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 16:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c049#c-49</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-41" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c041#c-41" rel="nofollow">#41</a> mira, siento tu historia personal, pero yo lo que te quería decir es que no soy profesor.<br />
<a class="tooltip c:2733931-48" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c048#c-48" rel="nofollow">#48</a> .... pff. Lo mismo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--324579--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21221341</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>48</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Varlak_</meneame:user>
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		<title>#48 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c048#c-48</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 16:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Varlak_</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c048#c-48</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-23" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c023#c-23" rel="nofollow">#23</a> pues ponles el video de yooutube</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Varlak_</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21221309</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>47</meneame:order>
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		<title>#47 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 15:59:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--30529--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21221300</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>46</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Acido</meneame:user>
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		<title>#46 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 15:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Acido</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c046#c-46</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-44" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c044#c-44" rel="nofollow">#44</a> No, no tiene que ver con fotones, qué va... <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/palm.png" alt=":palm:" title=":palm:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
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<a href="https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/EmDrive" title="es.wikipedia.org/wiki/EmDrive" rel="nofollow">es.wikipedia.org/wiki/EmDrive</a><br />
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&#34;EmDrive (también propulsor de cavidad resonante RF) &#34;<br />
  (RF significa RadioFrecuencia... ondas electromagnéticas, es decir, fotones)<br />
<br />
&#34;El motor usa un magnetrón para producir microondas que son dirigidas a un recipiente metálico, cónico&#34;<br />
   Pues eso, microondas son ondas electromagnéticas, es decir, fotones... Y, por cierto, un recipiente curvo (enfocado hacia atrás) recuerda a las velas curvas que aparecen en el vídeo meneado. <br />
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Y más del artículo de Wikipedia: <br />
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«El EmDrive funciona igual que cualquier otro motor», dice el Dr. Arto Annila, profesor de física en la Universidad de Helsinki y autor principal del artículo. «Su “propelente” son los <b>fotones</b> de entrada en longitudes de microondas». Los investigadores sugieren que los <b>fotones</b> que salen de la máquina <b>interfieren entre sí</b>, de modo que el efecto general parece como si nada estuviera allí.<br />
«En la cavidad de entrada los fotones rebotan hacia atrás y adelante, e invariablemente algunos de ellos van a interferir destructivamente por completo. La tecnología se ha denominado “motor warp”, por su similitud con la planta de energía de la serie de ficción Star Trek». La idea es la misma que las ondas de agua viajando juntas, en el momento exacto en que una cresta alta coincide con un el punto más bajo; las olas se anulan entre sí.<br />
«Los fotones emparejados sin campo electromagnético neto escaparán de la cavidad», dijo el Dr. Annila. «Este flujo de salida de fotones emparejados es el escape de EmDrive. <b>Cuando la cavidad es asimétrica, como el cono cónico, el flujo de salida de fotones emparejados también es asimétrico. Por lo tanto, la pérdida de impulso realizado por los fotones emparejados es desigual. En otras palabras, el empuje no es cero».</b><br />
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Esto último se parece mucho a lo que explicó <a class="tooltip c:2733931-24" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c024#c-24" rel="nofollow">#24</a> <br />
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Lo último que dices sí parece que es cierto, que produciría más empuje que un impulso fotónico directo. Sería algo así como que en el caso del vídeo enfocar el ventilador del barquito hacia una vela curva (hacia delante) produzca muchísimo mayor empuje que enfocarlo directamente hacia atrás, lo cual evidentemente parece rarísimo e increíble. El orden de magnitud sería como unas 850 veces!!<br />
<a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/EmDrive/comments/38pdjo/em_drive_vs_photonic_methods/" title="www.reddit.com/r/EmDrive/comments/38pdjo/em_drive_vs_photonic_methods/" rel="nofollow">www.reddit.com/r/EmDrive/comments/38pdjo/em_drive_vs_photonic_methods/</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Acido</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21221060</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>45</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--400360--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#45 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c045#c-45</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 15:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--400360--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c045#c-45</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Llevo tiempo siguiendo a este tio y hace videos muy buenos. Transformación de energía, cambios de temperatura, cambios de presión en un liquido,.... muuuchas cosas interesantes.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--400360--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21221055</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>44</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--22191--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#44 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c044#c-44</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 15:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--22191--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c044#c-44</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-42" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c042#c-42" rel="nofollow">#42</a> Si, es lo mismo, pero el EMDrive no tiene que ver con los fotones. Hay otro motor que no me acuerdo como se llama (seguramente &#34;Photon Thruster&#34; o algo parecido), que envía fotones que no tienen masa, pero que si tienen inercia, y que mandan al motor hacia el lado contrario.<br />
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Lo del EMD es que lo llaman &#34;motor imposible&#34; porque genera más empuje que con fotones usando solo electricidad, y la razón que da rompe las leyes de la física de los últimos 300 años. Se supone que la NASA y China lo van a probar en el espacio este año, y hasta que eso no pase y se vean los resultados, es difícil decir de donde saca el empuje con seguridad. La explicación más lógica que he escuchado es que el vacío no está totalmente vacío nunca, y que simplemente expulsa átomos sueltos que se va encontrando por ahí. Pero hay que esperar a que hagan más tests ¯_(ツ)_/¯</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--22191--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21220851</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>43</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>omegapoint</meneame:user>
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		<title>#43 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c043#c-43</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 14:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>omegapoint</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c043#c-43</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> me refería a que el empuje producido por la hélice wn una dirección y el empuje producido por la vela en dirección contraria, se anulan.<br />
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Por eso el fujo de aire se mueve hacía los lados.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>omegapoint</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21220663</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>42</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Acido</meneame:user>
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		<title>#42 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c042#c-42</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Acido</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c042#c-42</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-24" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c024#c-24" rel="nofollow">#24</a> <a class="tooltip c:2733931-17" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c017#c-17" rel="nofollow">#17</a> <a class="tooltip c:2733931-11" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c011#c-11" rel="nofollow">#11</a> <a class="tooltip c:2733931-10" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c010#c-10" rel="nofollow">#10</a> <a class="tooltip c:2733931-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> <a class="tooltip c:2733931-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> <br />
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Pregunta seria: <br />
  ¿No es esto como el EMDrive? <br />
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Bueno, ya se que en este caso se trata de aire, un fluido formado por moléculas... y en el otro caso se envían fotones... pero ¿no habría una especie de interacción de los fotones entre sí como en el caso del aire?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Acido</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#41 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c041#c-41</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--312149--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--312149--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21220353</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>swapdisk</meneame:user>
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		<title>#40 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c040#c-40</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>swapdisk</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c040#c-40</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> Accion - Reacción y PUNTO DE APLICACION. Las fuerzas van por pares y hay que saber dónde aplica cada una. El ventilador empuja el aire y éste empuja al ventilador... se mueve. Al meter la vela en medio, el aire empuja la vela y ésta al aire. El ventilador recibe empuje en un sentido y la vela en otro... no hay movimiento. Lo del final es una canalización que cambia la dirección del aire por lo que consigue algo de empuje hacia delante.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>swapdisk</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#39 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--324579--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c039#c-39</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-37" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c037#c-37" rel="nofollow">#37</a> qué idea tan buena. Qué raro que no se le haya ocurrido a nadie.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--324579--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21220133</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>38</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--167245--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>41</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#38 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c038#c-38</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--167245--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c038#c-38</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> Porque tu profesora fue tan idiota de no empujar la mesa 2 veces, una con zapatos y otra con patines.<br />
<br />
Esa explicación que te dio (y por qué no se cumple lo que te dice) requiere explicar lo que es el rozamiento.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--167245--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21220132</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>37</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--420623--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#37 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c037#c-37</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 12:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--420623--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c037#c-37</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-23" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c023#c-23" rel="nofollow">#23</a> ¿y si el mismo prototipo lo tienes hecho y lo usas de un año para otro? O si eres flojo a más no poder, una tablet y el vídeo de Youtube...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--420623--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21219947</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>36</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>jord.beceene</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#36 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c036#c-36</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jord.beceene</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c036#c-36</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a> si con esta comparación quieres decir que podrías levantarte y levitar agarrándote al pelo de otro creo que te equivocas. Lo menos que te llevarías sería un guantazo, y quizá hasta le arrancarías pelo o le provocarías una lesión cervical.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>jord.beceene</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21219831</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>35</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--532912--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#35 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c035#c-35</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--532912--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c035#c-35</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-28" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c028#c-28" rel="nofollow">#28</a> no hace falta mucho ingles para ver que hace las pruebas primero con la mierda de vela recta esa y luego con una curva, del derecho y del reves.<br />
<br />
Y si ves un poco mas mete el barquito en agua <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--532912--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21219776</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>34</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--324579--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>11</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#34 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c034#c-34</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--324579--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c034#c-34</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-32" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c032#c-32" rel="nofollow">#32</a> &#60;&#60;vuestra&#62;&#62;<br />
Además de faltón, desacertado.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--324579--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21219755</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>33</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--122466--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#33 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c033#c-33</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 11:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--122466--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c033#c-33</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--122466--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21219651</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>32</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--312149--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#32 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c032#c-32</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--312149--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c032#c-32</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--312149--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21219562</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>31</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--324579--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>4</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#31 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c031#c-31</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--324579--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c031#c-31</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-27" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c027#c-27" rel="nofollow">#27</a> ¿ No has pensado que la tercera ley de Newton es algo más que lo que dice ese simple vídeo ? A lo mejor en los temarios actuales, la tercera ley de Newton se explica en un par de clases, junto la segunda, las fórmulas del movimiento lineal, la fórmula de cantidad de movimiento, la composición de fuerzas , el rozamiento, ejercicios de todo eso...<br />
¿ Dices diez minutos cada cosa de esas (que no son diez minutos ni de coña)? ¿ Se debe alargar entonces el tiempo de estudio ?<br />
Supongo que sabes que en las clases no se le dice a los niños que lean el libro en voz alta. Parece que solo quieras criticar y comprende que no es plan de seguirte.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--324579--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21219519</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>30</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--312149--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#30 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c030#c-30</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--312149--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c030#c-30</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--312149--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21219488</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>29</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Ferran</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>11</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#29 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c029#c-29</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ferran</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c029#c-29</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-28" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c028#c-28" rel="nofollow">#28</a> Yo lo vi sin sonido y lo entendí.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Ferran</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21219461</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>28</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--312149--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>17</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#28 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c028#c-28</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--312149--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c028#c-28</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--312149--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21219448</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>27</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--312149--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>6</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>27</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#27 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c027#c-27</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:26:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--312149--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c027#c-27</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--312149--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21219420</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>26</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Seifer</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#26 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c026#c-26</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Seifer</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c026#c-26</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a> nada que ver -&#62; <a class="tooltip c:2733931-10" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c010#c-10" rel="nofollow">#10</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Seifer</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21219394</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>25</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Procurador</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>28</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#25 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c025#c-25</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:13:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Procurador</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c025#c-25</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Pos... me ha sorprendido <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/twemojis/36/1f632.png" alt="{0x1f632}" title="{0x1f632}" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Procurador</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21219342</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>24</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--324579--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>28</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#24 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c024#c-24</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 10:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--324579--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c024#c-24</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> hay dos fuerzas: la de reacción del aire (ventilador, globo) y la de empuje de la vela. Se puede poner solo una (se mueve) o las dos de forma que se anulen (no se mueve) o de forma que se anulen parcialmente (se mueve pero menos).</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--324579--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21219319</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>23</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--324579--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>28</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#23 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c023#c-23</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--324579--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c023#c-23</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> si no hay mesa y empujas el aire, los esfuerzos de tus músculos son menores.<br />
<a class="tooltip c:2733931-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> muy bonito, pero mucho tiempo. Se tarda media hora en mostrarlo y unas cuantas en prepararlo. Si cada particularidad física se explica así, no hay tiempo material. Así que se debe hacer pocas veces, so pena de dejar a los alumnos como incultos.<br />
Luego está el tema de la falta de medios, que es otra.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--324579--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21219270</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>22</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--88270--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#22 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c022#c-22</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--88270--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c022#c-22</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Salio en los mythbusters <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/cool.png" alt="8-D" title=":cool: 8-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--88270--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21219151</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>21</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>0</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#21 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c021#c-21</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--538185--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c021#c-21</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--538185--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21219053</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>20</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--167245--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>28</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#20 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c020#c-20</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 08:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--167245--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c020#c-20</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-16" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c016#c-16" rel="nofollow">#16</a> Se te ve tan despechado que yo diría que no las chupas pero no porque no quieras si no porque nadie quiere que se la chupes.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--167245--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21218942</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>19</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Ferran</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#19 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c019#c-19</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 07:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ferran</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c019#c-19</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-10" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c010#c-10" rel="nofollow">#10</a> como explica en el video si lo ves entero...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Ferran</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21218941</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>18</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Ferran</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>24</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#18 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c018#c-18</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 07:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Ferran</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c018#c-18</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> Cosa que expica si ves el video entero...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Ferran</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21218887</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>17</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>ED209</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>41</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#17 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c017#c-17</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 06:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ED209</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c017#c-17</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> quiere probar que soplando tu propia vela no se avanza, salvo que parte del soplido sea dirigido hacia atrás por la vela (por ejemplo una vela curva).<br />
Pero entonces, si lo que te hace avanzar no es soplar la vela sino el aire que va hacia atrás, para eso es más efectivo soplar a popa, no a la vela.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ED209</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21218872</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>redion</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>14</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-69</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#16 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 06:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>redion</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c016#c-16</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-15" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c015#c-15" rel="nofollow">#15</a> por que no chupo pollas</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>redion</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21218835</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--122466--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>16</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 04:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--122466--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--122466--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21218805</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>redion</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>12</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-25</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 03:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>redion</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-13" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c013#c-13" rel="nofollow">#13</a> que no soy de la pandilla guay de meneame, que cuando dicen sus mierdas se votan positivos y se rien juntitos</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>redion</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21218739</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--122466--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>21</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 02:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--122466--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--122466--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21218669</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>redion</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>25</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>-135</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 01:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>redion</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>que triste solo 100.000 visitas, el rubius tiene en cada video 15 millones, que tio mas mediocre jajaja</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>redion</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21218655</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--161570--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 01:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--161570--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> Si, pero es menos eficiente que simplemente poner el ventilador en dirección contraria pars empujarte como las míticas lanchas de los pantanos yankees.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--161570--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21218654</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--22191--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>94</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 01:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--22191--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> <br />
<br />
Si la vela es recta, el aire se va hacia los lados. El aire hacia los lados no empuja el barco hacia delante, como mucho lo hace girar hacia el sitio donde se vaya más el aire (como hace al final en la piscina).<br />
<br />
Si la vela es curva, hace que el aire que antes se iba hacia los lados, ahora se vaya hacia atrás, y el barco se mueve en dirección contraria del aire.<br />
<br />
El problema es que, si pones el ventilador hacia atrás, es lo mismo que si pones la vela curva. De hecho, es más eficiente sin vela, porque sale más aire hacia atrás que con vela. Con vela el aire también se va un poco hacia arriba y hacia abajo en lugar de enfocarlo todo hacia atrás, como haría con el ventilador solo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--22191--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21218646</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>geaplanet</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 01:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>geaplanet</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> Y es que, encima, las velas del dibujo del libro que critica <a class="tooltip l:2733931" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng" rel="nofollow">#0</a> son curvas.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>geaplanet</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21218643</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Jointhouse_Blues</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>33</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 01:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jointhouse_Blues</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> AKA troll physics: <a href="https://www.google.es/search?tbm=isch&#38;q=troll+physics&#38;tbs=imgo:1&#38;gws_rd=cr&#38;ei=sbafWLZKi7ZrtvWLyA0" title="www.google.es/search?tbm=isch&#38;q=troll+physics&#38;tbs=imgo:1&#38;gws_rd=cr&#38;ei=sbafWLZKi7ZrtvWLyA0" rel="nofollow">www.google.es/search?tbm=isch&#38;q=troll+physics&#38;tbs=imgo:1&#38;g</a> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/troll.png" alt=":troll:" title=":troll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Jointhouse_Blues</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21218639</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>KimiDrunkkonen</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2017 01:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>KimiDrunkkonen</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> no es lo mismo porque aquí mueves el aire de un lado a otro como un ventilador, y en el propio vídeo demuestran que es perfectamente posible</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>KimiDrunkkonen</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21218199</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>omegapoint</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>23</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>omegapoint</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>O como poner un iman en el barco y otro iman atado con un palo para tirar del barco con la fuerza magnetica.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>omegapoint</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Peachembela</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>6</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>48</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2017 20:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Peachembela</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>no entiendo ingles pero por lo que se ve en el video se puede si la vela es curva</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Peachembela</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21217013</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--136355--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>6</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>32</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2017 16:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--136355--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>es como tratar de levitar a base de agarrarte tu propio pelo con las manos y estirar hacia arriba</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--136355--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21216156</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Trigonometrico</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>12</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>74</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2017 13:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Trigonometrico</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:2733931-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> Una profesora nos decía &#34;si yo empujo esta mesa con la mano (mientras la empujaba), la mesa está haciendo la misma fuerza hacia mi&#34;.  Nunca saqué ninguna conclusión de aquella explicación.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Trigonometrico</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>21215619</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--420623--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>44</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2017 11:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--420623--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Ojalá muchos más profesores empezarán explicando Newton así.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--420623--</strong></p>]]></description>
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	<item>
		<meneame:comment_id>21215222</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>2733931</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Nathaniel.Maris</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>55</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Soplando a tu propia vela [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2017 09:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nathaniel.Maris</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/soplando-tu-propia-vela-eng/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Muy interesante, pobre coyote. <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/sad.png" alt=":-(" title=":-(" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Nathaniel.Maris</strong></p>]]></description>
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