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	<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2765127</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>482667</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--104966--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Demandan a EA por drm (eng)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--104966--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--104966--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2757266</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>482667</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--78272--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 Demandan a EA por drm (eng)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 14:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--78272--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:482667-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a> Lo que se dice seguro... <a href="http://www.gametreeonline.com/SporeEULA.pdf" title="www.gametreeonline.com/SporeEULA.pdf" rel="nofollow">www.gametreeonline.com/SporeEULA.pdf</a><br />
<br />
Aquí discuten sobre la mencion de SecuROM en el EULA: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Read-the-Spore-EULA-before/forum/Fx33E4EB7NJXA02/Tx287SIDT4V828G/1/ref=cm_cd_pg_pg1?_encoding=UTF8&#38;asin=B000FKBCX4" title="www.amazon.com/Read-the-Spore-EULA-before/forum/Fx33E4EB7NJXA02/Tx287SIDT4V828G/1/ref=cm_cd_pg_pg1?_encoding=UTF8&#38;asin=B000FKBCX4" rel="nofollow">www.amazon.com/Read-the-Spore-EULA-before/forum/Fx33E4EB7NJXA02/Tx287S</a><br />
<br />
Independientemente de eso, los usuarios afectados señalan los efectos negativos que trae sobre sus sistemas. <br />
<br />
¿Ajo y agua para ellos, según tú?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--78272--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2756603</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>482667</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--174--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>16</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Demandan a EA por drm (eng)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 13:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--174--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¿Demandan por el SECUROM? ¿Hemos vuelto al 98 y no me he enterado?<br />
<br />
Por cierto, el expendiente del caso: <a href="http://www.courthousenews.com/2008/09/23/Spore.pdf" title="www.courthousenews.com/2008/09/23/Spore.pdf" rel="nofollow">www.courthousenews.com/2008/09/23/Spore.pdf</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--174--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2754302</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>482667</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>jotape</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Demandan a EA por drm (eng)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 07:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jotape</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:482667-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> el software viene con un EULA que has de aceptar para usarlo, ¿a quién quieren demandar si seguro que durante el <em>siguientesiguientesiguiente</em> han dicho que aceptaban?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>jotape</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2753654</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>482667</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Mariju</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Demandan a EA por drm (eng)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 01:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mariju</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Que se los traben por mala onda <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/undecided.png" alt=":-/" title=":-/ :/" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Mariju</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2753629</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>482667</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--78272--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Demandan a EA por drm (eng)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--78272--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:482667-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> Lo dices como si fuera algo generalizado y común.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--78272--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2753336</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>482667</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>jotape</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Demandan a EA por drm (eng)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jotape</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¿Demandan a EA por descubrir las restricciones draconianas del software privativo?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>jotape</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2753325</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>482667</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>jaylong</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Demandan a EA por drm (eng)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jaylong</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:482667-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> si bien ya bajaron lo estricto de su DRM y la amenaza de expulsion fue un hoax, veo dificil que se recuperen pronto de este desastre de relaciones públicas.<br />
incluso creo que the sims 3 va a tener problemas derivados de esto.<br />
<br />
y si, se lo merecen</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>jaylong</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2753160</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>482667</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--22191--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Demandan a EA por drm (eng)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--22191--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Relacionada <a href="http://v2.meneame.net/story/electronic-arts-amenaza-usuarios-spore-expulsiones-si-hablan-sobre-drm" title="v2.meneame.net/story/electronic-arts-amenaza-usuarios-spore-expulsiones-si-hablan-sobre-drm" rel="nofollow">v2.meneame.net/story/electronic-arts-amenaza-usuarios-spore-expulsione</a><br />
<br />
El Spore a pasado de ser el juego más esperado junto con el StarCraft II a ser un juego mediocre que ha hecho tener mala publicidad a EA <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/confused.png" alt=":-S" title=":-S :S" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--22191--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2753051</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>482667</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>fifodoble</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Demandan a EA por drm (eng)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>fifodoble</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Se lo merecen.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>fifodoble</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2752615</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>482667</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>jaylong</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 Demandan a EA por drm (eng)</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>jaylong</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/demandan-a-ea-por-drm-eng/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Electronic arts defrauda a los consumidores a travez de su juego &#34;spore&#34;, el cual &#34;borra completamente su disco duro&#34; <em>(Nt. wtf?)</em>  y lo reemplaza con un programa no divulgado que impide a la computadora el operar bajo ciertas circunstancias, según una demanda &#34;class action&#34; (donde un grupo de personas son representados a la vez en un juicio) en una corte federal <br />
La demanda dice que &#34;spore&#34;, un juego de realidad virtual de simulación, contiene &#34;un segundo programa no divulgado&#34; llamado SecuROM, un &#34;tipo de gestión de derechos digitales para juegos de computadora&#34; <br />
No se advierte a los consumidores sobre el programa, el cual es instalado sin aviso y no se puede desinstalar, aún si se desinstala Spore, declara la demanda. El programa secreto, SecuROM, es instalado en el centro de control y comando de la computadora (Ring 0, en el kernel) y opera subrepticiamente, supervisando ñas funciones y la operación de la computadora, evitando que esta opere bajo ciertas circunstancias y/o perturbando las operaciones del harware&#34;.<br />
Los demandantes exigen el pago de ganancias injustas y daños por allanamiento, interferencia, competencia desleal y violaciones a la ley del consumidor.<br />
los representan Alan Himmelfarb y KamberEdelson de Vernon, Calif., y Nueva York.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>jaylong</strong></p>]]></description>
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