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		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 Microsoft presenta Silverlight 2, que permite desarrollo con Eclipse [eng]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 07:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:499184-11" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c011#c-11" rel="nofollow">#11</a>  Acabo de despertar, ya entiendo, es software libre para una plataforma no libre. ¡Ya me extrañaba a mi que una compañía que se ha portado siempre como lo ha hecho, ahora adoptase el software libre!. <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/blank.png" alt=":-|" title=":-| :|" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--2873--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2868252</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>499184</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--3560--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>22</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 Microsoft presenta Silverlight 2, que permite desarrollo con Eclipse [eng]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--3560--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:499184-10" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c010#c-10" rel="nofollow">#10</a> mejor despierta, silverlight es una plataforma para DRM por la que microsoft espera lucrarse a base de proveer el software necesario para impedir que la gente acceda a la información libremente.<br />
<br />
No hay que hacer muchos cálculos para verificar que DRM es incompatible con Software Libre, ya que garantizan opuestos.<br />
<br />
&#34;The PlayReady Server SDK, which runs on Windows® Server 2003 (licensed separately) is offered to Silverlight customers at a cost of USD$30,000 per CPU,&#34;<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.microsoft.com/silverlight/overview/mediaDetail.aspx?index=4" title="www.microsoft.com/silverlight/overview/mediaDetail.aspx?index=4" rel="nofollow">www.microsoft.com/silverlight/overview/mediaDetail.aspx?index=4</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--3560--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2868175</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>499184</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--2873--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#10 Microsoft presenta Silverlight 2, que permite desarrollo con Eclipse [eng]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--2873--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:499184-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> <a class="tooltip c:499184-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a> Resulta que la Microsoft Permissive License fue renombrada y reformada como Microsoft Public License (Ms-PL): <a href="http://www.opensource.org/licenses/ms-pl.html" title="www.opensource.org/licenses/ms-pl.html" rel="nofollow">www.opensource.org/licenses/ms-pl.html</a> una licencia libre aprobada por la Open Source Initiative (OSI) el 12 de Octubre de 2007. De acuerdo a la Free Software Foundation, es una licencia de Software Libre y es compatible con la GNU GPL version 3.<br />
 No me acostaré sin aprender una cosa más y sin sorprenderme de que Microsoft haya dado este pasito hacia el software libre.<br />
 Asi que desde aqui mi rectificación a los de Mono por lo dicho en <a class="tooltip c:499184-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a>. <br />
 ¡Y a desarrollar con Eclipse y el Software Libre de Microsoft!... voy a pellizcarme... o mejor me acuesto ya... <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/wink.png" alt=";)" title=";)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--2873--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2868113</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>499184</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--3560--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>22</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 Microsoft presenta Silverlight 2, que permite desarrollo con Eclipse [eng]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 22:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--3560--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:499184-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> Define &#34;todas las garantías&#34;<br />
<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silverlight#Relationship_to_existing_Web_standards" title="en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silverlight#Relationship_to_existing_Web_standards" rel="nofollow">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silverlight#Relationship_to_existing_Web_standar</a><br />
<br />
<a class="tooltip c:499184-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> mono es un producto de Novell. (<a href="http://boycottnovell.com/" title="boycottnovell.com/" rel="nofollow">boycottnovell.com/</a>)</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--3560--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2868022</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
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		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 Microsoft presenta Silverlight 2, que permite desarrollo con Eclipse [eng]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--2873--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:499184-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> ¡Ah!. ¿Pero existe más de una Microsoft Permissive License? <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/confused.png" alt=":-S" title=":-S :S" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--2873--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2867989</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>499184</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>matacca</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>23</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 Microsoft presenta Silverlight 2, que permite desarrollo con Eclipse [eng]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>matacca</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:499184-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> Pues una de las supuestas bazas fuertes es que funciona en linux como Moonlight, basado en Mono. Y al parecer a los desarrolladores de Mono les auspicia Novell, con el que se asoció Microsoft no hace mucho en temas de software &#34;libre&#34;.<br />
Además, estas leyendo la licencia de Windows Mobile...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>matacca</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2867969</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>499184</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--2873--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>22</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 Microsoft presenta Silverlight 2, que permite desarrollo con Eclipse [eng]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--2873--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:499184-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> <a class="tooltip c:499184-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> Aquí está la licencia:<br />
<a href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsmobile/bb264332.aspx" title="msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsmobile/bb264332.aspx" rel="nofollow">msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsmobile/bb264332.aspx</a><br />
Este punto de la licencia me parece especialmente &#34;interesante&#34;:<br />
<em>(B) Platform Limitation- The licenses granted in sections 2(A) &#38; 2(B) extend only to the software or derivative works that you create that run on a Microsoft Windows operating system product.</em><br />
 Que se despidan de multi-plataforma los de Mono... <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/roll.gif" alt=":roll:" title=":roll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--2873--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2867944</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>499184</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--10753--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>28</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 Microsoft presenta Silverlight 2, que permite desarrollo con Eclipse [eng]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--10753--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Ni marketing, ni mona, ni avance... un licencia libre con todas las garantias.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shared_source" title="en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shared_source" rel="nofollow">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shared_source</a><br />
<br />
Según la FSF, compatible incluso con GNU GPL v3...<br />
<br />
Estaría bien informase antes de criticar todo lo que venta de Microsoft... más que nada para no quedar con un fanboy de poca monta.<br />
<br />
Saludos!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--10753--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2867931</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>QTI66</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 Microsoft presenta Silverlight 2, que permite desarrollo con Eclipse [eng]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>QTI66</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft ¡No gracias!.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>QTI66</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2867900</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>sorlak</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>20</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 Microsoft presenta Silverlight 2, que permite desarrollo con Eclipse [eng]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sorlak</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>No deja de ser un avance hacia 'algo'.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>sorlak</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2867894</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>RadL</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 Microsoft presenta Silverlight 2, que permite desarrollo con Eclipse [eng]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>RadL</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Aun que la mona vista de seda mona se queda.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>RadL</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:user>kikuyo</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>39</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#1 Microsoft presenta Silverlight 2, que permite desarrollo con Eclipse [eng]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 21:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kikuyo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/microsoft-presenta-silverlight-2-permite-desarrollo-eclipse-eng/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>¿<em>Microsoft Permissive License</em>? No deja de sorprenderme la capacidad de marketing de esta empresa.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>kikuyo</strong></p>]]></description>
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