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		<meneame:order>35</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>soaptrap</meneame:user>
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		<title>#35 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c035#c-35</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 23:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>soaptrap</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3483967-12" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c012#c-12" rel="nofollow">#12</a> Díselo al jefe de operaciones del proyecto Ingenuity en la NASA, que parece que está equivocado:<br />
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“There was a balloon mission on Venus years ago, so we can't claim to be the first aircraft,” he said, referring to the two Soviet Vega space probes that deployed balloons attached to scientific instruments in the clouds on Venus in 1985. “But we can claim we’re the first powered aircraft outside Earth.”</i><br />
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<a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/science/space/first-space-helicopter-set-take-martian-skies-n1257617" title="www.nbcnews.com/science/space/first-space-helicopter-set-take-martian-skies-n1257617" rel="nofollow">www.nbcnews.com/science/space/first-space-helicopter-set-take-martian-</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>soaptrap</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32605167</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3483967</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>34</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>arivero</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>13</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#34 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c034#c-34</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 19:49:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>arivero</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c034#c-34</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3483967-23" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c023#c-23" rel="nofollow">#23</a> Los romanos y griegos tenían tan pillado lo de medir en campos de fútbol que era estandar... Una milla igual a ocho estadios, creo recordar. La novedad moderna es lo de usarlo también como medida de área.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>arivero</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32605132</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3483967</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>33</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>pepitoPalates</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#33 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c033#c-33</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 19:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>pepitoPalates</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c033#c-33</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Espero con ansias el primer vuelo!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>pepitoPalates</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32604953</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>32</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Oestrimnio</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#32 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c032#c-32</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 19:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Oestrimnio</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c032#c-32</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3483967-31" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c031#c-31" rel="nofollow">#31</a> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/hug.png" alt=":hug:" title=":hug:" width="35" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /><br />
Estaba de coña! <br />
<img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/hug.png" alt=":hug:" title=":hug:" width="35" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Oestrimnio</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32604887</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>31</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>ErisMorn</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>16</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#31 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c031#c-31</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 18:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ErisMorn</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c031#c-31</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3483967-30" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c030#c-30" rel="nofollow">#30</a> vuelvo a insistir que va a ser la primera aeronave en despegar y aterrizar en otro planeta. <br />
<br />
Por mucho modo tiquismiquis que te pongas no se puede rebatir esa afirmación.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ErisMorn</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32604880</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>30</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Oestrimnio</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#30 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c030#c-30</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 18:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Oestrimnio</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c030#c-30</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3483967-12" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c012#c-12" rel="nofollow">#12</a><br />
Modo Tiquismiquis ON/<br />
 Si aceptasemos paracaídas como <i>aeronave</i> entonces los soviéticos vuelven a ser los primeros en posarse en Venus (y en Marte)</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Oestrimnio</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32604784</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>29</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>thingoldedoriath</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#29 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c029#c-29</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 18:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>thingoldedoriath</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c029#c-29</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3483967-25" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c025#c-25" rel="nofollow">#25</a> Gracias!<br />
Mi comentario iba en serio... intenté imaginar esa distancia y sospeché que haría imposible cualquier tipo de control remoto (no se cuanto tiempo tardaría una orden en atravesar toda esa distancia); así que supuse que todo tendría que ser programado con antelación.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>thingoldedoriath</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32604763</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>28</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>thingoldedoriath</meneame:user>
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		<title>#28 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c028#c-28</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 18:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>thingoldedoriath</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c028#c-28</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3483967-26" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c026#c-26" rel="nofollow">#26</a> Gracias por el enlace <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/smiley.png" alt=":-)" title=":-)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>thingoldedoriath</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32604649</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>27</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>plutanasio</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#27 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c027#c-27</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 18:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>plutanasio</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c027#c-27</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3483967-25" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c025#c-25" rel="nofollow">#25</a> El logro es la precisión del aterrizaje y el peso de la carga, pero las anteriores misiones también lo hicieron de forma autónoma, es una evolución de todo lo aprendido.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>plutanasio</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32604453</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>26</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>SergioZgz</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>27</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#26 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c026#c-26</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 17:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>SergioZgz</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c026#c-26</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3483967-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> <a class="tooltip c:3483967-25" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c025#c-25" rel="nofollow">#25</a> <br />
<br />
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhsZUZmJvaM" title="www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhsZUZmJvaM" rel="nofollow">www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhsZUZmJvaM</a><br />
<br />
Impresionante la verdad <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/smiley.png" alt=":-)" title=":-)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>SergioZgz</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32604403</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>25</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>gpcitm2020</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>53</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#25 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c025#c-25</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 17:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>gpcitm2020</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c025#c-25</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3483967-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> Yo te tomare en serio.<br />
Tiene un mérito extraordinario lo que ha conseguido la NASA con esta misión, hay que pensar que gran parte de las maniobras se han realizado de forma autónoma, ya que a la distancia que esta Marte es imposible cualquier tipo de control remoto.<br />
Y me refiero concretamente a la entrada en la atmósfera Marciana y posterior amartizaje del robot casi en el lugar exacto donde estaba previsto.<br />
Si os queréis dar cuenta de lo complicado que es esto, mirad al cielo esta noche, localizar Marte y pensad en ello.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>gpcitm2020</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32604354</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>24</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>gpcitm2020</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
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		<title>#24 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c024#c-24</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 17:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>gpcitm2020</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c024#c-24</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3483967-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> Y hace tiempo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>gpcitm2020</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32604348</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>23</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Dramaba</meneame:user>
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		<title>#23 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c023#c-23</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 17:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dramaba</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c023#c-23</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3483967-16" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c016#c-16" rel="nofollow">#16</a> 4<sub>1</sub>485.714 Bernabeus/Camp Nous y medio campo de Oliver y Benji... <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Dramaba</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32604312</meneame:comment_id>
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		<title>#22 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c022#c-22</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 17:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--678072--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c022#c-22</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--678072--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32604243</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3483967</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>21</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Unsiquiatra_Unsiquiatra</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#21 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c021#c-21</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 17:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Unsiquiatra_Unsiquiatra</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c021#c-21</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Cuidado que hay una raza extraterrestre viviendo bajo el suelo y matan a los humanos por miedo a que se mezclen con una raza invasora de la que sólo ellos son capaces de mantenerse a salvo.!!!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Unsiquiatra_Unsiquiatra</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32604171</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3483967</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>20</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>alexwing</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>12</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#20 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c020#c-20</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 16:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>alexwing</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c020#c-20</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Menudo truño a soltado el Rover se habrá quedado a gusto.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>alexwing</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32604117</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3483967</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>19</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--677665--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#19 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c019#c-19</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 16:49:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--677665--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c019#c-19</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Ahora saldrán los negacionistas diciendo que menudo rollo nos están metiendo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--677665--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32604087</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3483967</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>18</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--677064--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#18 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c018#c-18</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 16:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--677064--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c018#c-18</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--677064--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32604081</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3483967</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>17</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Nuevo_1666</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#17 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c017#c-17</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 16:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nuevo_1666</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c017#c-17</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Próxima noticia, el helicoptero multa al rover por saltarse un stop. <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/troll.png" alt=":troll:" title=":troll:" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Nuevo_1666</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32604065</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3483967</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Mosquitocabrón</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>10</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#16 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 16:40:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Mosquitocabrón</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c016#c-16</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3483967-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> ¿En campos de  fútbol?, por favor...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Mosquitocabrón</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32604062</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3483967</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Nomás</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>7</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 16:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Nomás</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Si el de la cara oculta de la luna es el rover chino, este es el dron del rover en Marte al igual que si llega a funcionar el rover chino en Marte, será el rover chino de Marte. Tanta perseverancia e ingenuidad.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Nomás</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32604059</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3483967</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>auroraboreal</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>36</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 16:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>auroraboreal</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>sería una pena que no sobreviviera al frío marciano ahora que ya ha hecho lo más difícil . Cruzemos los dedos <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/twemojis/36/1f64f.png" alt="{0x1f64f}" title="{0x1f64f}" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>auroraboreal</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32604047</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3483967</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>soberao</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>31</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 16:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>soberao</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3483967-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> Sí se usa para hacer descubrimientos científicos, como por ejemplo probar esa tecnología para ver si estamos en lo cierto en cuanto a poder hacer volar a un robot de manera autónoma en Marte. Van varios minutos hasta que llegan las ondas de radio a la tierra. Tendrá que volar y maniobrar por sí mismo una vez que despegue, en una atmósfera y gravedad distintas a las de aquí.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>soberao</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32604043</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3483967</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>ErisMorn</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>16</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 16:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ErisMorn</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3483967-11" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c011#c-11" rel="nofollow">#11</a> si consideramos un globo como aeronave entonces cualquiera de lo aterrizajes de las sondas se considerarían vuelos al llegar en paracaídas. <br />
<br />
Va a ser el primer aeronave que aterriza y despega en otro planeta.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ErisMorn</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32604024</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3483967</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>soaptrap</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>5</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>46</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 16:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>soaptrap</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Creo que las primeras aeronaves en otro planeta fueron los globos de las misiones Vega 1 y 2 que sobrevolaron Venus por 2 días en 1985. El helicóptero este sería el primer vuelo <i>controlado</i>.<br />
<br />
<a href="https://danielmarin.naukas.com/2011/03/01/el-primer-globo-en-otro-mundo/" title="danielmarin.naukas.com/2011/03/01/el-primer-globo-en-otro-mundo/" rel="nofollow">danielmarin.naukas.com/2011/03/01/el-primer-globo-en-otro-mundo/</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>soaptrap</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32604013</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3483967</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>asbostrusbo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 16:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>asbostrusbo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3483967-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> km arriba o abajo</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>asbostrusbo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32603999</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3483967</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>thingoldedoriath</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>50</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 16:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>thingoldedoriath</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>A 471 millones de kilómetros de distancia de la Tierra...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>thingoldedoriath</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32603995</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3483967</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>owenwang</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>10</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>81</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 16:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>owenwang</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3483967-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> La palabra genérica será tutiplén. <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>owenwang</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32603979</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3483967</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>ElPerroDeLosCinco</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>11</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>102</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 16:26:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ElPerroDeLosCinco</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>El helicóptero no se usará para hacer descubrimientos científicos, sino reconocimiento del terreno antes de mover a la Perseverance, no vaya a meterse en un arenal chungo, o en un terraplén ...o marteplén. O como se diga.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ElPerroDeLosCinco</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32603951</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>3483967</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--673895--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 16:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--673895--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>espero que descubra algo interesante como alguna lagartija  o asi  <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--673895--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:karma>54</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 13:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Gattiliunski</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3483967-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> De ahí lo de &#34;aeronave&#34; <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/smiley.png" alt=":-)" title=":-)" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Gattiliunski</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32602205</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>mjgonzalez</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 12:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mjgonzalez</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Tiene que haber por ahí cerca algún marciano asombrado transmitiendo con el cerebro.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>mjgonzalez</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32601313</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Reakl</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>4</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>42</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 10:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Reakl</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3483967-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> parece que ya se han ido.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Reakl</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32601167</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--454994--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>29</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 09:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--454994--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>huid, marcianos, estáis a tiempo!!</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--454994--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>32600964</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>banyan</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>9</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 El helicóptero Ingenuity toca la superficie de Marte</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2021 09:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>banyan</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Ciencia/helicoptero-ingenuity-toca-superficie-marte/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Hombre, El Aguila alunizo y despegó por lo que sería la primera.  <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/twemojis/36/1f343.png" alt="{0x1f343}" title="{0x1f343}" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> Si bien allí no había aire.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>banyan</strong></p>]]></description>
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