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		<meneame:user>suppiluliuma</meneame:user>
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		<title>#10 &#34;Devolver a la Edad de Piedra&#34; [HILO]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2023 17:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>suppiluliuma</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3793672-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> Te he dado mi respuesta, y los hechos contenidos en ella son ciertos. De nuevo, si eso desmonta tu propaganda, es tu problema.<br />
<br />
Tú, en cambio, sigues sin contestar a una pregunta extremadamente simple: ¿cuál es tu opinión sobre el bombardeo por parte de los rusos de la infraestructura civil de Ucrania?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>suppiluliuma</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>38043684</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>Beltenebros</meneame:user>
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		<title>#9 &#34;Devolver a la Edad de Piedra&#34; [HILO]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2023 16:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Beltenebros</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3793672-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a> <br />
Tú respuesta no desmonta nada, al contrario, lo que hace es difundir propaganda. Es lo que te he indicado en mi comentario anterior. Como veo que no tienes intención de debatir sin faltar a la verdad, finalizo aquí mi &#34;conversación&#34; contigo.<br />
Buenas tardes.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Beltenebros</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>38043650</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>suppiluliuma</meneame:user>
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		<title>#8 &#34;Devolver a la Edad de Piedra&#34; [HILO]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2023 16:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>suppiluliuma</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3793672-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> Te he respondido. Si mi respuesta desmonta tu propaganda, es tu problema, no el mío.<br />
<br />
El que no responde a mi pregunta eres tú. ¿Cual es tu opinión sobre el bombardeo por parte de los rusos de la infraestructura civil de Ucrania?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>suppiluliuma</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>38043512</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>Beltenebros</meneame:user>
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		<title>#7 &#34;Devolver a la Edad de Piedra&#34; [HILO]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2023 16:27:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Beltenebros</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3793672-6" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo/c06#c-6" rel="nofollow">#6</a> <br />
Haces como que me respondes, asintiendo con lógica en el primer párrafo, para luego soltar propaganda. Aclárate un poco.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Beltenebros</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:user>suppiluliuma</meneame:user>
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		<title>#6 &#34;Devolver a la Edad de Piedra&#34; [HILO]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2023 17:47:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>suppiluliuma</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3793672-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> Que el ataque a objetivos civiles es injustificado, haga quien lo haga. Incluyendo Ucrania.<br />
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Dicho esto, tendrás que aclararme de qué ataques me estás hablando, y si se trataba de bombardeos indiscriminados contra civiles, o de acciones defensivas para parar a los invasores rusos y a sus proxies locales.<br />
<br />
Porque la guerra de 2014 fue una invasión rusa. Las hostilidades comenzaron con la toma de los edificios públicos de Sloviansk por el comando de Igor Girkin, coronel del FSB llegado desde la Crimea tomada por los rusos, y continuaron con el despliegue de tropas regulares rusas.<br />
<br />
<a href="https://osce.usmission.gov/russias-ongoing-violations-in-ukraine-13/" title="osce.usmission.gov/russias-ongoing-violations-in-ukraine-13/" rel="nofollow">osce.usmission.gov/russias-ongoing-violations-in-ukraine-13/</a><br />
<a href="https://www.4freerussia.org/putin.war/" title="www.4freerussia.org/putin.war/" rel="nofollow">www.4freerussia.org/putin.war/</a><br />
<a href="https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/in-depth-research-reports/report/hiding-in-plain-sight/" title="www.atlanticcouncil.org/in-depth-research-reports/report/hiding-in-plain-sight/" rel="nofollow">www.atlanticcouncil.org/in-depth-research-reports/report/hiding-in-pla</a><br />
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/01/russian-soldiers-ukraine-rights-groups" title="www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/01/russian-soldiers-ukraine-rights-groups" rel="nofollow">www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/01/russian-soldiers-ukraine-rights-</a><br />
<a href="https://static.rusi.org/201503_bp_russian_forces_in_ukraine_0.pdf" title="static.rusi.org/201503_bp_russian_forces_in_ukraine_0.pdf" rel="nofollow">static.rusi.org/201503_bp_russian_forces_in_ukraine_0.pdf</a><br />
<a href="https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/russia-funds-and-manages-conflict-in-ukraine-leaks-show/" title="www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/russia-funds-and-manages-conflict-in-ukraine-leaks-show/" rel="nofollow">www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/russia-funds-and-manages-co</a><br />
<a href="https://www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2016/01/16/russias-200th-motorized-infantry-brigade-in-the-donbass/" title="www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2016/01/16/russias-200th-motorized-infantry-brigade-in-the-donbass/" rel="nofollow">www.bellingcat.com/news/uk-and-europe/2016/01/16/russias-200th-motoriz</a><br />
<a href="https://www.imrussia.org/media/pdf/An_Invasion_by_Any_Other_Name.pdf" title="www.imrussia.org/media/pdf/An_Invasion_by_Any_Other_Name.pdf" rel="nofollow">www.imrussia.org/media/pdf/An_Invasion_by_Any_Other_Name.pdf</a><br />
<a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28934213" title="www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28934213" rel="nofollow">www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28934213</a><br />
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/18/russian-soldiers-ukraine-trial-terrorism-charges" title="www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/18/russian-soldiers-ukraine-trial-terrorism-charges" rel="nofollow">www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/18/russian-soldiers-ukraine-trial-t</a><br />
<a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/18/new-video-evidence-of-russian-tanks-in-ukraine-european-court-human-rights" title="www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/18/new-video-evidence-of-russian-tanks-in-ukraine-european-court-human-rights" rel="nofollow">www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/18/new-video-evidence-of-russian-ta</a><br />
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ilovaisk" title="en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ilovaisk" rel="nofollow">en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Ilovaisk</a><br />
<a href="https://www.dw.com/en/russian-court-says-countrys-soldiers-stationed-in-ukraine/a-60153034" title="www.dw.com/en/russian-court-says-countrys-soldiers-stationed-in-ukraine/a-60153034" rel="nofollow">www.dw.com/en/russian-court-says-countrys-soldiers-stationed-in-ukrain</a><br />
<a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-ukraine-troops-in-donbas-court-document-amid-concern-invasion/" title="www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-ukraine-troops-in-donbas-court-document-amid-concern-invasion/" rel="nofollow">www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-ukraine-troops-in-donbas-court-document-am</a><br />
<a href="https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/putins-ukraine-war-russian-mp-recalls-efforts-to-push-civil-war-myth/" title="www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/putins-ukraine-war-russian-mp-recalls-efforts-to-push-civil-war-myth/" rel="nofollow">www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/putins-ukraine-war-russian-</a><br />
<a href="https://khpg.org/en/1565889311" title="khpg.org/en/1565889311" rel="nofollow">khpg.org/en/1565889311</a><br />
<a href="https://khpg.org/en/1608809673" title="khpg.org/en/1608809673" rel="nofollow">khpg.org/en/1608809673</a><br />
<br />
Y no te preocupes por <a class="tooltip c:3793672-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a>. No va a responder. Pero, en su honor, te voy a hacer la misma pregunta, ¿cual es tu opinión sobre el bombardeo por parte de los rusos de la infraestructura civil de Ucrania?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>suppiluliuma</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>38036836</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Beltenebros</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 &#34;Devolver a la Edad de Piedra&#34; [HILO]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2023 17:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Beltenebros</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3793672-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a> <br />
No sé si te responderá <a class="tooltip c:3793672-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> y, en ese caso, qué te dirá.<br />
Yo te hago la siguiente pregunta:<br />
<br />
¿Cuál es tu opinión sobre el bombardeo por parte del régimen de Kiev de hospitales, escuelas, zonas de viviendas, etcétera, en el Donbass desde 2014?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Beltenebros</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>38035968</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>suppiluliuma</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 &#34;Devolver a la Edad de Piedra&#34; [HILO]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2023 15:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>suppiluliuma</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:3793672-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> Absolutamente de acuerdo. Que los EEUU bombardearan la infraestructura civil de Irak es un crimen imperdonable.<br />
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Por cierto, ¿cual es tu opinión sobre el bombardeo por parte de los rusos de la infraestructura civil de Ucrania?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>suppiluliuma</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:user>--737094--</meneame:user>
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		<title>#3 &#34;Devolver a la Edad de Piedra&#34; [HILO]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2023 14:51:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--737094--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Personajes-nodriza de la Nuland con su &#34;que se joda Europa&#34;, de la otra del &#34;latinoamérica es nuestro patio trasero&#34;, y de tantos otros gualtrapas al uso en USA</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--737094--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:user>--134954--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 &#34;Devolver a la Edad de Piedra&#34; [HILO]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2023 14:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--134954--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Lo de siempre del terrorismo otanista, el faro de occidente.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--134954--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>38035489</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>--557077--</meneame:user>
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		<title>#1 &#34;Devolver a la Edad de Piedra&#34; [HILO]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2023 13:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--557077--</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/devolver-edad-piedra-hilo/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Hilo de Víctor García, periodista de RTVE</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--557077--</strong></p>]]></description>
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