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		<title>#17 +30 Curiosidades de Blas de Lezo</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c017#c-17</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2024 13:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>yarkyark</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:4003856-14" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c014#c-14" rel="nofollow">#14</a><i> &#34;cuando vivió este señor, <b>España no existía</b>.&#34;</i><br />
<br />
Mapas holandeses <b>de España</b> de un siglo antes de que viviese este señor:<br />
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<i>El primer mapa orlado <b>de España</b> conocido es el Nova Hispaniae Descriptio publicado por el cartógrafo flamenco Jodocus Hondius (ca. 1610).<br />
</i><br />
<a href="https://mastervcs.umh.es/2018/02/12/los-mapas-orlados-del-siglo-xvii-la-importancia-la-estetica/" title="mastervcs.umh.es/2018/02/12/los-mapas-orlados-del-siglo-xvii-la-importancia-la-estetica/" rel="nofollow">mastervcs.umh.es/2018/02/12/los-mapas-orlados-del-siglo-xvii-la-import</a><br />
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cc <a class="tooltip c:4003856-16" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c016#c-16" rel="nofollow">#16</a></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>yarkyark</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>41905030</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Pertinax</meneame:user>
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		<title>#16 +30 Curiosidades de Blas de Lezo</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2024 12:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Pertinax</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c016#c-16</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:4003856-14" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c014#c-14" rel="nofollow">#14</a><i> ¡Viva España! ¡Viva el rey! ¡Viva Cristo Jesús!.</i><br />
Blas de Lezo en el asedio de Cartagena de Indias.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Pertinax</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>41905020</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>esbrutafio</meneame:user>
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		<title>#15 +30 Curiosidades de Blas de Lezo</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2024 12:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>esbrutafio</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:4003856-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a> Tienes razón pero se hace constantemente. Cuando se dice que muchas figuras históricas eran patriotas españoles o que luchaban por España.  Cuando vivieron antes de inventarse el concepto de nación (la palabra existía anteriormente pero con otro significado)<br />
Eran servidores de su rey.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>esbrutafio</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>41904690</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>javibaz</meneame:user>
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		<title>#14 +30 Curiosidades de Blas de Lezo</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2024 11:40:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:4003856-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> cuando vivió este señor, España no existía.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>javibaz</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>41904593</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Elbaronrojo</meneame:user>
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		<title>#13 +30 Curiosidades de Blas de Lezo</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2024 11:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:4003856-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHgX1QNGHX0" title="www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHgX1QNGHX0" rel="nofollow">www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHgX1QNGHX0</a> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/grin.png" alt=":-D" title=":-D" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Elbaronrojo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>41904529</meneame:comment_id>
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		<title>#12 +30 Curiosidades de Blas de Lezo</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2024 11:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sxentinel</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:4003856-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> Se agradece.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>sxentinel</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>41904522</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>kumo</meneame:user>
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		<title>#11 +30 Curiosidades de Blas de Lezo</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2024 11:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>kumo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:4003856-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a> Hay aquí tanto traumado con la historia de su país, sus símbolos y sus héroes y personajes que incluso tienen que inventarse alguna improbable característica ficticia actual para poder digerirlo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>kumo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>41904514</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:user>leporcine</meneame:user>
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		<title>#10 +30 Curiosidades de Blas de Lezo</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2024 11:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>leporcine</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:4003856-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> Pues al final has provocados unas risillas.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>leporcine</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>41904510</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>ingenierodepalillos</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>26</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 +30 Curiosidades de Blas de Lezo</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2024 11:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ingenierodepalillos</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:4003856-3" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c03#c-3" rel="nofollow">#3</a> Meneo porque tiene razón en la primera parte de su comentario, pero prefiero las páginas, leo más rápido que cualquier narración locutada.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ingenierodepalillos</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>41904509</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Torrezzno</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 +30 Curiosidades de Blas de Lezo</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2024 11:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Torrezzno</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:4003856-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> Y William Wallace era catalán no te jode</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Torrezzno</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>41904507</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Torrezzno</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 +30 Curiosidades de Blas de Lezo</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2024 11:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Torrezzno</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:4003856-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /></p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Torrezzno</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>41904501</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Torrezzno</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 +30 Curiosidades de Blas de Lezo</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2024 11:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Torrezzno</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:4003856-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> mucho Broncano, Motos, Ayuso y Trump, donde va a parar</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Torrezzno</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>41904500</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>ehizabai</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>38</meneame:karma>
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		<title>#5 +30 Curiosidades de Blas de Lezo</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2024 11:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ehizabai</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:4003856-4" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c04#c-4" rel="nofollow">#4</a> Pues eso, por molestar a los nostálgicos del imperio.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ehizabai</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>41904486</meneame:comment_id>
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		<title>#4 +30 Curiosidades de Blas de Lezo</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2024 11:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>yarkyark</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:4003856-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> <i>&#34;en el s.XX, hubiera sido independentista.&#34;<br />
</i><br />
Y si mi abuela tuviera ruedas seria una bicicleta.<br />
<br />
Lo que me faltaba por ver apropiarse de lo que pensaría hoy en día una persona que vivió hace mas de 200 años.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>yarkyark</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<title>#3 +30 Curiosidades de Blas de Lezo</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2024 11:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>sxentinel</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:4003856-1" href="https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c01#c-1" rel="nofollow">#1</a> Esta bien conocer la historia de España y esto son curiosidades sobre su vida... Además me encanta como narra Sommer, no es el típico articulo de 200 paginas.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>sxentinel</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>ehizabai</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>48</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 +30 Curiosidades de Blas de Lezo</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2024 11:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>ehizabai</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c02#c-2</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Solo por molestar a los nostálgicos del Imperio, en su casa natal luce hoy una banderola en favor de la repatriación de presos vascos. Si hubiera nacido en el s.XX, hubiera sido independentista.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>ehizabai</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>41904440</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>1</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Celsar</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>38</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo</meneame:url>
		<title>#1 +30 Curiosidades de Blas de Lezo</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c01#c-1</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2024 11:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Celsar</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/m/Cultura/30-curiosidades-blas-lezo/c01#c-1</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>No son cansinos ni na con Blas de Lezo...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Celsar</strong></p>]]></description>
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