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		<meneame:order>17</meneame:order>
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		<title>#17 La radiación Hawking y el LHC [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c017#c-17</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>[Usuario deshabilitado]</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--66738--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2446206</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>444893</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>16</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--92029--</meneame:user>
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		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc</meneame:url>
		<title>#16 La radiación Hawking y el LHC [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c016#c-16</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 21:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>--92029--</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>&#34;Después de su lectura, le queda a uno claro que el LHC es casi tan seguro como una central nuclear&#34; ¿Soy el único que está intranquilo?</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>--92029--</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2445477</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>444893</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>15</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Kartoffel</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc</meneame:url>
		<title>#15 La radiación Hawking y el LHC [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c015#c-15</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kartoffel</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c015#c-15</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:444893-14" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c014#c-14" rel="nofollow">#14</a> No es coherente, porque primero emplea y luego desacredita el argumento de autoridad:<br />
<br />
<a href="http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principio_de_no_contradicción" title="es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principio_de_no_contradicción" rel="nofollow">es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principio_de_no_contradicción</a><br />
<br />
<em>Pero no puedes basar la seguridad del LHC en una teoría sobre la que ni hay unanimidad ni confirmación científica.</em><br />
<br />
Lo que no se puede es parar cualquier experimento porque a alguien se le ocurra que va a destruir el mundo. Cuando aparecieron la mecánica cuántica y la Teoría de la relatividad tampoco estaba todo el mundo de acuerdo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Kartoffel</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2445457</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>444893</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>14</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Xceptic</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc</meneame:url>
		<title>#14 La radiación Hawking y el LHC [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c014#c-14</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Xceptic</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c014#c-14</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:444893-12" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c012#c-12" rel="nofollow">#12</a> El artículo es perfectamente coherente, y las contradicciones que señala son las de la propia comunidad científica. Hasta ahí, todo normal, pues son campos fronterizos con nuestro conocimiento actual. Pero no puedes basar la seguridad del LHC en una teoría sobre la que ni hay unanimidad ni confirmación científica.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Xceptic</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2445453</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>444893</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>13</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Rubenix</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>8</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc</meneame:url>
		<title>#13 La radiación Hawking y el LHC [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c013#c-13</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Rubenix</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c013#c-13</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:444893-12" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c012#c-12" rel="nofollow">#12</a> lo que a mí me preocupa es si Hawking se equivocase...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Rubenix</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2445401</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>444893</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>12</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Kartoffel</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc</meneame:url>
		<title>#12 La radiación Hawking y el LHC [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c012#c-12</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:03:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kartoffel</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c012#c-12</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:444893-11" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c011#c-11" rel="nofollow">#11</a> No quiero debatir si existe o no la radiación de Hawking, sino demostrar que el artículo es contradictorio. Respecto a la confirmación experimental, pronto la tendrás gracias al LHC</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Kartoffel</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2445343</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>444893</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>11</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Xceptic</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc</meneame:url>
		<title>#11 La radiación Hawking y el LHC [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c011#c-11</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Xceptic</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c011#c-11</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:444893-8" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c08#c-8" rel="nofollow">#8</a> En efecto, <strong>si</strong> existe. Es una teoría sobre la que sus propios colegas no están seguros, y que carece de la menor confirmación esperimental. Lo suficiente como para estudiarse, pero no lo bastante como para jugarse la hipoteca de <a class="tooltip c:444893-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a>.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Xceptic</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2445305</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>444893</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>10</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>tototo</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>14</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc</meneame:url>
		<title>#10 La radiación Hawking y el LHC [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c010#c-10</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tototo</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c010#c-10</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:444893-9" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c09#c-9" rel="nofollow">#9</a> Tranquilo si te hipotecas para ti se acabará igualmente</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>tototo</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2445259</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>444893</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>9</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Kukii</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc</meneame:url>
		<title>#9 La radiación Hawking y el LHC [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c09#c-9</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kukii</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c09#c-9</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Entonces... se acaba el mundo o no se acaba? Es que me voy a hipotecar...</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Kukii</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2445253</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>444893</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>8</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Kartoffel</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>39</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc</meneame:url>
		<title>#8 La radiación Hawking y el LHC [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c08#c-8</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kartoffel</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c08#c-8</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:444893-7" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c07#c-7" rel="nofollow">#7</a> Quería decir que si existe la radiación de Hawking, el bujero negro se evapora antes de que resulte un peligro.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Kartoffel</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2445245</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>444893</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>7</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Xceptic</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>0</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>6</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc</meneame:url>
		<title>#7 La radiación Hawking y el LHC [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c07#c-7</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Xceptic</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c07#c-7</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:444893-5" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c05#c-5" rel="nofollow">#5</a> Hawking <strong>sí cree</strong> en la formación de micro-agujeros negros en el LHC. Léelo otra vez.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Xceptic</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2445192</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>444893</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>6</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Alvarete</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>5</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc</meneame:url>
		<title>#6 La radiación Hawking y el LHC [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c06#c-6</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alvarete</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c06#c-6</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Relacionadas : <br />
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		<meneame:comment_id>2445185</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>444893</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>5</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Kartoffel</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>3</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>53</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc</meneame:url>
		<title>#5 La radiación Hawking y el LHC [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c05#c-5</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Kartoffel</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c05#c-5</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Me encanta la coherencia del artículo:<br />
<br />
Primera parte: se formará un agujero negro porque lo dicen X, Y y Z<br />
Segunda parte: según la teoría de Hawking no se forma un agujero negro, pero Hawking puede equivocarse (y unos cuantos ad hominems más)<br />
<br />
¿En qué quedamos, es válido el argumento de autoridad o no? <img data-src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/menemojis/36/lol.gif" alt="xD" title=":lol: xD" width="18" height="18" src="https://cdn.mnmstatic.net/v_149/img/g.gif" class="emoji lazy" /> <br />
<br />
En fin, el propio artículo se refuta a sí mismo.</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Kartoffel</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2445165</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>444893</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>4</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Alvarete</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>2</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>19</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc</meneame:url>
		<title>#4 La radiación Hawking y el LHC [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c04#c-4</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alvarete</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c04#c-4</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p>Acabo de leer el artículo y quiero cambiar mi meneo por errónea :$</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Alvarete</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2445133</meneame:comment_id>
		<meneame:link_id>444893</meneame:link_id>
		<meneame:order>3</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>Alvarete</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>8</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>73</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc</meneame:url>
		<title>#3 La radiación Hawking y el LHC [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c03#c-3</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Alvarete</dc:creator>
		<guid>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c03#c-3</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[<p><a class="tooltip c:444893-2" href="https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c02#c-2" rel="nofollow">#2</a> Es de los acontecimeintos más interesantes y que más está agitando la comunidad científica en lo que llevamos de siglo, para tí será aburrido, pero para muchos nos es apasionante</p><p>&#187;&nbsp;autor: <strong>Alvarete</strong></p>]]></description>
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		<meneame:comment_id>2445127</meneame:comment_id>
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		<meneame:order>2</meneame:order>
		<meneame:user>--49237--</meneame:user>
		<meneame:votes>1</meneame:votes>
		<meneame:karma>24</meneame:karma>
		<meneame:url>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc</meneame:url>
		<title>#2 La radiación Hawking y el LHC [ENG]</title>
		<link>https://www.meneame.net/story/la-radiacion-hawking-y-el-lhc/c02#c-2</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 17:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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