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El Estado Islámico dice actuar en nombre de Dios cuando en realidad contradice los textos sagrados en su propio beneficio. “Son los primeros que no siguen los preceptos; entre otras cosas, las muertes”, reprocha Javier Rosón, analista del islam en Europa de Casa Árabe. Sin embargo, los terroristas del grupo 'Estado Islámico' (EI) invocan el nombre de Dios al cometer atentados y pretenden erigirse como principales valedores del islam. Por culpa de ello, comunidades musulmanas de todo el mundo se ven obligadas a recordar que no los representan.

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#4 Y sobre una vision del mundo de hace 2000 años.

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#14 CONTINUA

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has charted them to make Islam "superior over all religions." This chapter was one of the final "revelations" from Allah and it set in motion the tenacious military expansion, in which Muhammad's companions managed to conquer two-thirds of the Christian world in the next 100 years. Islam is intended to dominate all other people and faiths.

Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

Quran (9:38-39) - "O ye who believe! what is the matter with you, that, when ye are asked to go forth in the cause of Allah, ye cling heavily to the earth? Do ye prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? But little is the comfort of this life, as compared with the Hereafter. Unless ye go forth, He will punish you with a grievous penalty, and put others in your place." This is a warning to those who refuse to fight, that they will be punished with Hell.

Quran (9:41) - "Go forth, light-armed and heavy-armed, and strive with your wealth and your lives in the way of Allah! That is best for you if ye but knew." See also the verse that follows (9:42) - "If there had been immediate gain (in sight), and the journey easy, they would (all) without doubt have followed thee, but the distance was long, (and weighed) on them" This contradicts the myth that Muslims are to fight only in self-defense, since the wording implies that battle will be waged a long distance from home (in another country and on Christian soil, in this case, according to the historians).

Quran (9:73) - "O Prophet! strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is the destination." Dehumanizing those who reject Islam, by reminding Muslims that unbelievers are merely firewood for Hell, makes it easier to justify slaughter. It also explains why today's devout Muslims have little regard for those outside the faith.

Quran (9:88) - "But the Messenger, and those who believe with him, strive and fight with their wealth and their persons: for them are (all) good things: and it is they who will prosper."

Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain: a promise binding on Him in truth, through the Law, the Gospel, and the Quran: and who is more faithful to his covenant than Allah? then rejoice in the bargain which ye have concluded: that is the achievement supreme." How does the Quran define a true believer?

Quran (9:123) - "O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness."

Quran (17:16) - "And when We wish to destroy a town, We send Our commandment to the people of it who lead easy lives, but they transgress therein; thus the word proves true against it, so We destroy it with utter destruction." Note that the crime is moral transgression, and the punishment is "utter destruction." (Before ordering the 9/11 attacks, Osama bin Laden first issued Americans an invitation to Islam).

Quran (18:65-81) - This parable lays the theological groundwork for honor killings, in which a family member is murdered because they brought shame to the family, either through apostasy or perceived moral indiscretion. The story (which is not found in any Jewish or Christian source) tells of Moses encountering a man with "special knowledge" who does things which don't seem to make sense on the surface, but are then justified according to later explanation. One such action is to murder a youth for no apparent reason (74). However, the wise man later explains that it was feared that the boy would "grieve" his parents by "disobedience and ingratitude." He was killed so that Allah could provide them a 'better' son. (Note: This is one reason why honor killing is sanctioned by Sharia. Reliance of the Traveler (Umdat al-Saliq) says that punishment for murder is not applicable when a parent or grandparent kills their offspring (o.1.1-2).)

Quran (21:44) - "We gave the good things of this life to these men and their fathers until the period grew long for them; See they not that We gradually reduce the land (in their control) from its outlying borders? Is it then they who will win?"

Quran (25:52) - "Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness..." "Strive against" is Jihad - obviously not in the personal context. It's also significant to point out that this is a Meccan verse.

Quran (33:60-62) - "If the hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and the alarmists in the city do not cease, We verily shall urge thee on against them, then they will be your neighbors in it but a little while. Accursed, they will be seized wherever found and slain with a (fierce) slaughter." This passage sanctions the slaughter (rendered "merciless" and "horrible murder" in other translations) against three groups: Hypocrites (Muslims who refuse to "fight in the way of Allah" (3:167) and hence don't act as Muslims should), those with "diseased hearts" (which include Jews and Christians 5:51-52), and "alarmists" or "agitators who include those who merely speak out against Islam, according to Muhammad's biographers. It is worth noting that the victims are to be sought out by Muslims, which is what today's terrorists do. If this passage is meant merely to apply to the city of Medina, then it is unclear why it is included in Allah's eternal word to Muslim generations.

Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)... If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost." Those who reject Allah are to be killed in Jihad. The wounded are to be held captive for ransom. The only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test.

Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"

Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom." Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.' Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted? This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.

Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves" Islam is not about treating everyone equally. This verse tells Muslims that there are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status. Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' to describe Hell in over 25 other verses including 65:10, 40:46 and 50:26..

Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way" Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "battle array" meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict. This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist." (See next verse, below). Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.

Quran (61:10-12) - "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of 'Adn - Eternity ['Adn (Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success." This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see above). It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.

Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end." The root word of "Jihad" is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.

Other verses calling Muslims to Jihad can be found here at AnsweringIslam.org


From the Hadith:

Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be

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From the Hadith:

Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."

Bukhari (52:256) - The Prophet... was asked whether it was permissible to attack the pagan warriors at night with the probability of exposing their women and children to danger. The Prophet replied, "They (i.e. women and children) are from them (i.e. pagans)." In this command, Muhammad establishes that it is permissible to kill non-combatants in the process of killing a perceived enemy. This provides justification for the many Islamic terror bombings.

Bukhari (52:65) - The Prophet said, 'He who fights that Allah's Word, Islam, should be superior, fights in Allah's Cause. Muhammad's words are the basis for offensive Jihad - spreading Islam by force. This is how it was understood by his companions, and by the terrorists of today.

Bukhari (52:220) - Allah's Apostle said... 'I have been made victorious with terror'

Abu Dawud (14:2526) - The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Three things are the roots of faith: to refrain from (killing) a person who utters, "There is no god but Allah" and not to declare him unbeliever whatever sin he commits, and not to excommunicate him from Islam for his any action; and jihad will be performed continuously since the day Allah sent me as a prophet until the day the last member of my community will fight with the Dajjal (Antichrist)

Abu Dawud (14:2527) - The Prophet said: Striving in the path of Allah (jihad) is incumbent on you along with every ruler, whether he is pious or impious

Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah

Bukhari (8:387) - Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah'. And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally."

Muslim (1:30) - "The Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people so long as they do not declare that there is no god but Allah."

Bukhari (52:73) - "Allah's Apostle said, 'Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords'."

Bukhari (11:626) - [Muhammad said:] "I decided to order a man to lead the prayer and then take a flame to burn all those, who had not left their houses for the prayer, burning them alive inside their homes."

Muslim (1:149) - "Abu Dharr reported: I said: Messenger of Allah, which of the deeds is the best? He (the Holy Prophet) replied: Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause..."

Muslim (20:4645) - "...He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa'id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the way of Allah!"

Muslim (20:4696) - "the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: 'One who died but did not fight in the way of Allah nor did he express any desire (or determination) for Jihad died the death of a hypocrite.'"

Muslim (19:4321-4323) - Three separate hadith in which Muhammad shrugs over the news that innocent children were killed in a raid by his men against unbelievers. His response: "They are of them (meaning the enemy)."

Muslim (19:4294) - "When the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him... He would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war... When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them... If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them."

Muslim (31:5917) - "Ali went a bit and then halted and did not look about and then said in a loud voice: 'Allah's Messenger, on what issue should I fight with the people?' Thereupon he (the Prophet) said: 'Fight with them until they bear testimony to the fact that there is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his Messenger'." The pretext for attacking the peaceful farming community of Khaibar was not obvious to the Muslims. Muhammad's son-in-law Ali asked the prophet of Islam to clarify the reason for their mission to kill, loot and enslave. Muhammad's reply was straightforward. The people should be fought because they are not Muslim.

Muslim (31:5918) - "I will fight them until they are like us." Ali's reply to Muhammad, after receiving clarification that the pretext for attack Khaibar was to convert the people (see above verse).

Bukhari 1:35 "The person who participates in (Holy Battles) in Allah’s cause and nothing compels him do so except belief in Allah and His Apostle, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty ( if he survives) or will be admitted to Paradise ( if he is killed)."

Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, "Kill any Jew who falls under your power." Ashraf was a poet, killed by Muhammad's men because he insulted Islam. Here, Muhammad widens the scope of his orders to kill. An innocent Jewish businessman was then slain by his Muslim partner, merely for being non-Muslim.

Tabari 9:69 "Killing Unbelievers is a small matter to us" The words of Muhammad, prophet of Islam.

Tabari 17:187 "'By God, our religion (din) from which we have departed is better and more correct than that which these people follow. Their religion does not stop them from shedding blood, terrifying the roads, and seizing properties.' And they returned to their former religion." The words of a group of Christians who had converted to Islam, but realized their error after being shocked by the violence and looting committed in the name of Allah. The price of their decision to return to a religion of peace was that the men were beheaded and the woman and children enslaved by the caliph Ali.

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 484: - “Allah said, ‘A prophet must slaughter before collecting captives. A slaughtered enemy is driven from the land. Muhammad, you craved the desires of this world, its goods and the ransom captives would bring. But Allah desires killing them to manifest the religion.’”

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 990: - Lest anyone think that cutting off someone's head while screaming 'Allah Akbar!' is a modern creation, here is an account of that very practice under Muhammad, who seems to approve.

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 992: - "Fight everyone in the way of Allah and kill those who disbelieve in Allah." Muhammad's instructions to his men prior to a military raid.

Saifur Rahman, The Sealed Nectar p.227-228 - "Embrace Islam... If you two accept Islam, you will remain in command of your country; but if your refuse my Call, you’ve got to remember that all of your possessions are perishable. My horsemen will appropriate your land, and my Prophethood will assume preponderance over your kingship." One of several letters from Muhammad to rulers of other countries. The significance is that the recipients were not making war or threatening Muslims. Their subsequent defeat and subjugation by Muhammad's armies was justified merely on the basis of their unbelief.

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#16 ¿Por qué llenas esto de citas del Corán en inglés?

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#1 Yo he visto en la CNT a dos personas diferente leer el mismo párrafo de una normativa y extraer del mismo conclusiones totalmente contrapuestas, y eso en una normativa que pretende ser clara y no dar lugar a la ambigüedad. Imagina lo que puede pasar con un texto escrito hace mil y pico años... El problema no es el texto, sino la interpretación que se haga de él. Que alguien sea un ejemplo de solidaridad y bondad y lo sea únicamente porque él interpreta que el Corán le ordena serlo, es un problema menor si es que se puede considerar un problema (para mí lo es, ya que el motivo de ese buen comportamiento no es racional) pero en todo caso es un problema menor. El problema es cuando alguien interpreta todo lo contrario.

#19 Porque es un spammer de extrema derecha que ya ha sido expulsado innumerables veces de esta web y ha usado nicks como@kkdx@irianx o@MiguelitoCampoviejo (igual te suena alguno). Odia a los musulmanes, a los negros y en general a cualquiera que no sea blanco y se identifique con la "cultura occidental", aparte de a las feministas, a la izquierda y a muchas otras minorías y sectores sociales. Por eso llena esto de citas del Corán en inglés, para intentar contagiar su odio a otros meneantes. Lo del inglés es para dificultar una correcta comprensión, no vaya a ser que al leer lo que pone se le pueda tachar de manipulador.

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#19 La fuente de la que lo he sacado está en inglés. No conozco ninguna fuente en español que recopile los versos violentos del Corán (y del Hadith, que es casi tan importante como el Corán. El Hadith es el equivalente al Nuevo Testamento en el Islam).

En cuanto al neobaturro, ni caso, es un esquizofrénico que se monta películas.

L

#13 x #12 La historia del ISIS matando a niños con síndrome de Down es un bulo: El bulo del ISIS ejecutando a los niños con síndrome de Down y otras minusvalías

Hace 8 años | Por Loda a justpaste.it


Los textos islámicos no contienen material que pudiera servir al ISIS de justificación para mandar matar a niños minusválidos.

Anteriormente el ISIS ha utilizado los textos islámicos para justificar su takfirismo y todo tipo de atrocidades: yihad sin límites, decapitaciones, castigos corporales, esclavismo, ejecuciones de homosexuales, masacre o sometimiento de minorías religiosas, etc

Por último, decir que el ISIS no tiene nada que ver con el Corán es algo extremadamente ridículo. cc #14

Artículo muy, muy recomendable (es largo pero basta con leer las primeras partes):
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

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A la paz del coran se llega despues de exterminar a todas las minorias y no musulmanes. Ya lo conocemos bien. La paz de Arabia Saudí, la paz de Irán.

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La palabra paz y sus derivados aparece escrita 140 veces en el corán
La palabra guerra y derivados, 6 veces.

Ahora sacad vuestras conclusiones.

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#3 Pues hombre, teniendo en cuenta que mas de un cansino y de dos se empeña en sacar extractos del antiguo testamento para hablar de lo malo que es el cristianismo.
Tampoco es sorprendente que los follacabras utilicen lo que les interesa de dicho libro.

Ningún fanatismo es bueno, y el salafismo de Arabia Saudi o la sharia en los paises en que se ha implantado...no me parece muy buenrollista

Saludos

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#6 Ya ya, la sharia es una interpretación de unos textos mal copiados, mal transcritos, mal traducidos y mal interpretados....tres cuartos de lo mismo para el conjunto de fábulas inconexas que es la biblia. Simplemente, uno no puede certificar la autenticidad del documento original, y que las posteriores versiones no hayan sido directamente falsificadas, mal interpretadas por el boca a boca, mal traducidas o mal copiadas.

Lo que ha llegado a nuestros días simplemente no corresponde con lo que figuraba en los textos originales. Por lo tanto, uno no puede hablar de 'cristianismo' o de 'islam' porque las enseñanzas de los supuestos profetas Mahoma y Chuscristo han sido desvirtuadas totalmente.

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#3 Es cierto, el Islam es una religión que da una importancia tremenda a la paz.

El único problema es el camino que pregona para alcanzar esa paz:

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#12 Bueno, pero no es culpa del Corán, será culpa de los soplapollas que matan en nombre de algo que no está escrito en ningún sitio. A ver si te crees que en el Corán está escrito que hay que exterminar a los niños discapacitados y con sindrome de Down...

ISIS ordena el asesinato de niños discapacitados y con Síndrome de Down [ENG]

Hace 8 años | Por Ze7eN a mirror.co.uk

pitercio

Además, "El blasfemo, impío que interprete las palabras del profeta sin creer fervientemente en sus dictados será corneado por cabras histéricas, apaleado, desmembrado y dado de comer a cerdos con trikinosis". Lo dice el corán, lo leyó mi qñao.

Findopan

En el Corán solo creen los soldados de a pie que están manipulados con él como herramienta (entre otras), la religión no es la causa del EI, es un instrumento más de sus cabecillas ¿o es que antes de de los "valedores del Islám" no había terrorismo ni guerra en Oriente Medio? Y antes de que aparecieran ellos hubo atentados contra occidente que se me cometían en nombre del odio contra occidente y no de Alá.

Claro, es mucho más sencillo decir que es por culpa del Corán o del Islám, así tenemos un enemigo fácilmente reconocible e incluso risible, nos podemos sentir mucho más avanzados y superiores a ellos, no tenemos que reconocer nuestra parte en esta guerra y, para que mentir, es mucho más justificable decir que tus tropas están en Oriente Medio luchando por la democracia y la libertad en contra del fanatismo religioso que decir que estás mandando a morir a tus soldados como parte de un juego de poder.

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¿Otra vez este cuento? Esto ya se ha visto mil veces. El problema del Corán es que los versos más violentos son los últimos, los que corresponden a la época de Mahoma como lider militar de una secta religiosa, genocida en sus ratos libres y follador de niñas de 9 años.

Mahoma como lider religioso-militar no se diferenciaba demasiado del ISIS.

Y el mismo Mahoma indicó que en caso de discrepancia, los versos más tardíos, los más violentos, tienen prioridad. Da la casualidad que todos esos versos pacíficos son de la época temprana, lo que significa que son secundarios, que valen solamente si no entran en conflicto con la parte violenta del Corán.

Que cansinismo con esto, por deus.

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Dame tiempo para leer todo eso, de todas formas no me gusta que nadie haga su particular interpretación de cada verso....Es como si me trataran de subnormal, yo también sé sacar mis propias conclusiones.

Campechano

Pues igual que los islamistas moderados, los cristianos moderados y los judíos moderados. Si tienes un libro de hace milenios que tienes que interpretar para adaptarlo a los tiempos modernos pasan estas cosas. Que puede haber interpretaciones para todos los gustos, y todos creen que la suya es la correcta. Siempre me ha hecho mucha gracia que los moderados digan, es que el Coran no dice eso. Tampoco dice lo que tú afirmas

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¿qué coño importa si el EI sigue o no sigue el corán? El único corán que el EI sigue es la riqueza. Si el corán de repente desapareciese, el EI se inventaría otro cuento para conducir a muchos a defender el enriquecimiento de unos pocos. Es ingenuo intentar que el EI deje de perseguir la riqueza por el método de decirle qué partes del corán no sigue. La religión aquí es lo que menos importa. La única religión que el EI sigue es la riqueza.

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Joder, ahora no va a tener nada que ver el Corán con el Islám... vaya titular...