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#1:
No solo eso, el streaming de algunas páginas como megaupload o youtube es muy lento, con constantes interrupciones, que desaparecen "misteriosamente" cuando optas por descargar el archivo. Éstos capan determinadas acciones, mientras pagas una de las conexiones mas caras de Europa. De los móviles ya ni hablamos...
#4:
el customer quer lo ponemos nosotrossssss 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVADWAxOZtg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVADWAxOZtg
#10:
Para mayor comodidad, copio aquí el artículo original del NYTimes entero. Las negritas son mías:
Putting the Brakes on Web-Surfing Speeds
By KEVIN J. O'BRIEN
BERLIN — State-of-the-art Web surfing, for all of its breathtaking speed, can be baffling. A favorite page gets hung up. A data-intensive application, like playing a video or downloading large files, stutters or stops. Is it the telecommunications operator? Is it the Web site? Is it the smartphone or the computer? Or just a sign of Internet thrombosis?
Krishna Gummadi, the head of the Networked Systems Research Group at the Max Planck Institute for Software Systems, in Saarbrücken, Germany, says the blame often lies with the telecom operator, which is selectively slowing broadband speeds to keep traffic flowing on its network, using a sorting technique called throttling.
In 2008, Mr. Gummadi and a graduate student, Marcel Dischinger, developed a free software gauge that detected whether broadband service was being throttled by a network operator. The software, called Glasnost after the Russian word for “openness,” has been downloaded and used by 1.5 million people around the world since then.
Glasnost mimics data transfers using the Bit Torrent file-sharing protocol, and then measures whether operators are slowing uploads and downloads. Consumers around the world have used it to test the service of landline broadband operators. Glasnost only works on a few smartphones so far.
The latest results, based on 121,247 tests run from January through October, suggest that throttling is being done everywhere in the world. The results for each operator may not be representative, for several reasons. The sample sizes for each operator vary, from 36,000 in the case of NTT Docomo of Japan, to just a hundred for smaller ones. There is also a 4 percent to 5 percent chance of “false positives” — indications that throttling is being done when it is not.
But that aside, Glasnost cast light on the practice of throttling, which operators are reluctant to discuss in detail beyond confirming, in standard service contracts, that they use it.
In the United States, throttling was detected in 23 percent of tests on telecom and cable-television broadband networks, less than the global average of 32 percent. The U.S. operators with higher levels of detected throttling included Insight Communications, a cable-television operator in New York, Kentucky, Indiana and Ohio, where throttling was detected in 38 percent of tests; and Clearwire Communications, where throttling was detected in 35 percent of the tests.
Throttling was detected in 18 percent of tests on Verizon’s landline network and in 30 percent of tests run on AT&T WorldNet Services, the company’s consumer broadband network. Throttling on AT&T’s business network, SBIS-AS AT&T Internet Service, was 18 percent.
In Europe, throttling appeared to be most common in Britain. Slowing was detected on 74 percent of tests done on BT’s British regional network. Positive tests for throttling also exceeded 50 percent for six other British operators: NTL, Opal Telecom, Telewest Broadband, Carphone Warehouse Broadband Service, Tiscali U.K. and Pipex.
In France, throttling appeared to be less common. Positive tests didn’t exceed 21 percent among France Télécom’s Orange service, Neuf Cegetel, Numericable and Proxad. In Germany, it was even rarer, at levels of less than 16 percent for almost every operator including Deutsche Telekom. (I tested Glasnost on my Deutsche Telekom network in Berlin and it showed no throttling.) The one exception: Kabel Deutschland, the biggest’s domestic cable TV operator, showed throttling detected in 44 percent of 393 tests.
In Japan, NTT Docomo employed throttling in 49 percent of 471 tests, according to Glasnost. GigaInfra Broadband and Vectant had positive tests in 30 percent and 38 percent of tests, respectively. In Canada, where the population is much more spread out, and networks must cover vast territory, throttling appeared more common. It was measured in 85 percent of tests on Rogers Communications’ network and 64 percent of tests on Bell Canada.
In other parts of the world, frequent throttling was detected in smaller operators, which often have less money to build high-capacity networks. Those included: the Dubai-based Emirates Integrated Telecommunications, operator of the Du network, with 90 percent; Toya, a cable operator in Lodz, Poland, with 88 percent; TeleCentro of Argentina, with 87 percent; RLE Elisa in Estonia, with 85 percent; ASN AtHome, a Hong Kong-based cable TV operator, with 83 percent; TM Net of Malaysia, with 78 percent; Magix of Singapore, 63 percent; Cabo TVM of Portugal, 62 percent; and Bezeq of Israel, 59 percent.
Former monopolies like Telefónica of Spain, Telecom Italia, KPN of Netherlands, Telstra of Australia, Telia of Sweden, Belgacom of Belgium and Eircom of Ireland, which all still operate the largest landline networks in their countries, generally used throttling less frequently — perhaps because they didn’t have to, on their extensive networks.
Their rates of detected throttling, respectively, according to Glasnost, were: 19 percent for Telefónica and Telecom Italia, 18 percent for KPN, 34 percent for Telstra, 14 percent for Telia, 13 percent for Belgacom and 15 percent for Eircom.
In general, the Glasnost results suggest that telecom and cable TV operators, when they do use throttling, do so mostly to suppress bandwidth hogs and ensure a reasonable experience for all of their customers. Mr. Dischinger, now a computer engineer in Innsbruck, Austria, said throttling was much more commonly used by operators of mobile phone networks, which have much less capacity than landline grids.
But with operators starting to sell superfast landline broadband service for heavy data users, such as Deutsche Telekom’s high-speed fiber-to-the-home service, the competition for bandwidth — and the need for throttling — will only increase, Mr. Dischinger said.
“I highly doubt it can go on forever,” Mr. Dischinger said. “I cannot envision with the current network infrastructure they have that operators can continue to support people in the long term without more investment.”
Putting the Brakes on Web-Surfing Speeds
By KEVIN J. O'BRIEN
BERLIN — State-of-the-art Web surfing, for all of its breathtaking speed, can be baffling. A favorite page gets hung up. A data-intensive application, like playing a video or downloading large files, stutters or stops. Is it the telecommunications operator? Is it the Web site? Is it the smartphone or the computer? Or just a sign of Internet thrombosis?
Krishna Gummadi, the head of the Networked Systems Research Group at the Max Planck Institute for Software Systems, in Saarbrücken, Germany, says the blame often lies with the telecom operator, which is selectively slowing broadband speeds to keep traffic flowing on its network, using a sorting technique called throttling.
In 2008, Mr. Gummadi and a graduate student, Marcel Dischinger, developed a free software gauge that detected whether broadband service was being throttled by a network operator. The software, called Glasnost after the Russian word for “openness,” has been downloaded and used by 1.5 million people around the world since then.
Glasnost mimics data transfers using the Bit Torrent file-sharing protocol, and then measures whether operators are slowing uploads and downloads. Consumers around the world have used it to test the service of landline broadband operators. Glasnost only works on a few smartphones so far.
The latest results, based on 121,247 tests run from January through October, suggest that throttling is being done everywhere in the world. The results for each operator may not be representative, for several reasons. The sample sizes for each operator vary, from 36,000 in the case of NTT Docomo of Japan, to just a hundred for smaller ones. There is also a 4 percent to 5 percent chance of “false positives” — indications that throttling is being done when it is not.
But that aside, Glasnost cast light on the practice of throttling, which operators are reluctant to discuss in detail beyond confirming, in standard service contracts, that they use it.
In the United States, throttling was detected in 23 percent of tests on telecom and cable-television broadband networks, less than the global average of 32 percent. The U.S. operators with higher levels of detected throttling included Insight Communications, a cable-television operator in New York, Kentucky, Indiana and Ohio, where throttling was detected in 38 percent of tests; and Clearwire Communications, where throttling was detected in 35 percent of the tests.
Throttling was detected in 18 percent of tests on Verizon’s landline network and in 30 percent of tests run on AT&T WorldNet Services, the company’s consumer broadband network. Throttling on AT&T’s business network, SBIS-AS AT&T Internet Service, was 18 percent.
In Europe, throttling appeared to be most common in Britain. Slowing was detected on 74 percent of tests done on BT’s British regional network. Positive tests for throttling also exceeded 50 percent for six other British operators: NTL, Opal Telecom, Telewest Broadband, Carphone Warehouse Broadband Service, Tiscali U.K. and Pipex.
In France, throttling appeared to be less common. Positive tests didn’t exceed 21 percent among France Télécom’s Orange service, Neuf Cegetel, Numericable and Proxad. In Germany, it was even rarer, at levels of less than 16 percent for almost every operator including Deutsche Telekom. (I tested Glasnost on my Deutsche Telekom network in Berlin and it showed no throttling.) The one exception: Kabel Deutschland, the biggest’s domestic cable TV operator, showed throttling detected in 44 percent of 393 tests.
In Japan, NTT Docomo employed throttling in 49 percent of 471 tests, according to Glasnost. GigaInfra Broadband and Vectant had positive tests in 30 percent and 38 percent of tests, respectively. In Canada, where the population is much more spread out, and networks must cover vast territory, throttling appeared more common. It was measured in 85 percent of tests on Rogers Communications’ network and 64 percent of tests on Bell Canada.
In other parts of the world, frequent throttling was detected in smaller operators, which often have less money to build high-capacity networks. Those included: the Dubai-based Emirates Integrated Telecommunications, operator of the Du network, with 90 percent; Toya, a cable operator in Lodz, Poland, with 88 percent; TeleCentro of Argentina, with 87 percent; RLE Elisa in Estonia, with 85 percent; ASN AtHome, a Hong Kong-based cable TV operator, with 83 percent; TM Net of Malaysia, with 78 percent; Magix of Singapore, 63 percent; Cabo TVM of Portugal, 62 percent; and Bezeq of Israel, 59 percent.
Former monopolies like Telefónica of Spain, Telecom Italia, KPN of Netherlands, Telstra of Australia, Telia of Sweden, Belgacom of Belgium and Eircom of Ireland, which all still operate the largest landline networks in their countries, generally used throttling less frequently — perhaps because they didn’t have to, on their extensive networks.
Their rates of detected throttling, respectively, according to Glasnost, were: 19 percent for Telefónica and Telecom Italia, 18 percent for KPN, 34 percent for Telstra, 14 percent for Telia, 13 percent for Belgacom and 15 percent for Eircom.
In general, the Glasnost results suggest that telecom and cable TV operators, when they do use throttling, do so mostly to suppress bandwidth hogs and ensure a reasonable experience for all of their customers. Mr. Dischinger, now a computer engineer in Innsbruck, Austria, said throttling was much more commonly used by operators of mobile phone networks, which have much less capacity than landline grids.
But with operators starting to sell superfast landline broadband service for heavy data users, such as Deutsche Telekom’s high-speed fiber-to-the-home service, the competition for bandwidth — and the need for throttling — will only increase, Mr. Dischinger said.
“I highly doubt it can go on forever,” Mr. Dischinger said. “I cannot envision with the current network infrastructure they have that operators can continue to support people in the long term without more investment.”
#46:
Pues según el NYT Vomistar es de las que menos usan el método, diciendo que posiblemente es porque no está aun implementado en toda su red. (Cosa en la que aciertan)
"Former monopolies like Telefónica of Spain, Telecom Italia, KPN of Netherlands, Telstra of Australia, Telia of Sweden, Belgacom of Belgium and Eircom of Ireland, which all still operate the largest landline networks in their countries, generally used throttling less frequently"
En todo caso el NYT no ha descubierto NADA que no se haya dicho y demostrado mucho antes en meneame (si, aquí) y sin usar el Glasnost:
Blogers franceses amenazados de muerte por revelar el uso de Deep Packet Inspection [FRA]/c2#c-2
Ser anónimo y defender a tu pueblo es ilegal/c3#c-3
¿Tu P2P se desboca? Nostros tenemos el domador
Llevamos avisando de lo del "deep packet inspection" para la detección de protocolos (incluso en tramas cifradas) y desvío de P2P y stream de video a nodos de baja velocidad y la gente tomándoselo a guasa y diciendo que era imposible.
Y es fácil detectar las cosas, por ejemplo el proxy que mete Vomistar para regular la velocidad de la descarga de videos:
TRACERT youtube.com
1
"Former monopolies like Telefónica of Spain, Telecom Italia, KPN of Netherlands, Telstra of Australia, Telia of Sweden, Belgacom of Belgium and Eircom of Ireland, which all still operate the largest landline networks in their countries, generally used throttling less frequently"
En todo caso el NYT no ha descubierto NADA que no se haya dicho y demostrado mucho antes en meneame (si, aquí) y sin usar el Glasnost:
Blogers franceses amenazados de muerte por revelar el uso de Deep Packet Inspection [FRA]/c2#c-2
Ser anónimo y defender a tu pueblo es ilegal/c3#c-3
¿Tu P2P se desboca? Nostros tenemos el domador
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arstechnica.com
Llevamos avisando de lo del "deep packet inspection" para la detección de protocolos (incluso en tramas cifradas) y desvío de P2P y stream de video a nodos de baja velocidad y la gente tomándoselo a guasa y diciendo que era imposible.
Y es fácil detectar las cosas, por ejemplo el proxy que mete Vomistar para regular la velocidad de la descarga de videos:
TRACERT youtube.com
1
#49:
Últimamente Telefónica ha estado cobrando el 100% de las facturas mensuales que me han enviado.
Si continúan cobrándolas a este ritmo, me veré obligado a desacelerar el pago de las facturas al 50% del importe de la factura durante periodos de mayor demanda de mi dinero, ya que es lo justo para los otros proveedores de otros servicios que también requieren una porción de mis limitados recursos.
Con el sistema de priorización desplegado, que sólo debería de afectar al 1% de la parte superior de mis acreedores, todo el mundo podrá continuar disfrutando de mis "ilimitados" pagos.
Si continúan cobrándolas a este ritmo, me veré obligado a desacelerar el pago de las facturas al 50% del importe de la factura durante periodos de mayor demanda de mi dinero, ya que es lo justo para los otros proveedores de otros servicios que también requieren una porción de mis limitados recursos.
Con el sistema de priorización desplegado, que sólo debería de afectar al 1% de la parte superior de mis acreedores, todo el mundo podrá continuar disfrutando de mis "ilimitados" pagos.
Comentarios
No solo eso, el streaming de algunas páginas como megaupload o youtube es muy lento, con constantes interrupciones, que desaparecen "misteriosamente" cuando optas por descargar el archivo. Éstos capan determinadas acciones, mientras pagas una de las conexiones mas caras de Europa. De los móviles ya ni hablamos...
el customer quer lo ponemos nosotrossssss
No os perdáis el link que adjunta #4. Vaya desgracia de clase empresarial que gasta el pais. ...me parto con las anotaciones del vídeo.
#4 Epico el video.
El presidente de la mayor empresa de telecomunicaciones del pais dando una clase magistral de como dirigir una empresa sin tener ni puta idea de lo que gestiona.
Ni idea de internet, pero es que ni idea. Este video se merece una noticia a parte para que lo vea todo el mundo.
#12 Si menéas, voto. Ojo, la noticia es del año pasado, igual pasa el filtro con la etiqueta humor, por lo de las anotaciones.
#21
La etiqueta humor o antigua
#4 Si si, es como si Internet, el cloud computing, las aplicaciones.. hubiesen sido idea de Telefonica. Lo mejor es cuando habla de los sms y de aplicaciones multiplataforma entre iPhone y el resto de móviles con sus diversos sistemas operativos... La parrafada que suelta a partir del 2:25...
#4 insuperable
#4 Y ese es el presidente ejecutivo de Timofónica... Qué miedo Dios mío, habla como un choni poligonero.
#4 brutal
#4 Relaccionada;
http://www.invertia.com/noticias/articulo-final.asp?idNoticia=2322292
#4 No puedo verlo entero. ¡¡Me tanta vergüenza ajena!! como cuando veo algo del diario de Patricia.
#51 Si compi!! tengo la misma sensacion de verguenza ajena, estos son los mandamases de España, ¡joder que miedo dan!, un tonto con poder es lo peor que hay!!
#4 que video más grandioso por dioxxx
Teneis que ver esto que nos deja #4 es increible!!!, pero de que habla este tio!!!
#4 Menudo presidente tiene la multinacional española
Para mayor comodidad, copio aquí el artículo original del NYTimes entero. Las negritas son mías:
Putting the Brakes on Web-Surfing Speeds
By KEVIN J. O'BRIEN
BERLIN — State-of-the-art Web surfing, for all of its breathtaking speed, can be baffling. A favorite page gets hung up. A data-intensive application, like playing a video or downloading large files, stutters or stops. Is it the telecommunications operator? Is it the Web site? Is it the smartphone or the computer? Or just a sign of Internet thrombosis?
Krishna Gummadi, the head of the Networked Systems Research Group at the Max Planck Institute for Software Systems, in Saarbrücken, Germany, says the blame often lies with the telecom operator, which is selectively slowing broadband speeds to keep traffic flowing on its network, using a sorting technique called throttling.
In 2008, Mr. Gummadi and a graduate student, Marcel Dischinger, developed a free software gauge that detected whether broadband service was being throttled by a network operator. The software, called Glasnost after the Russian word for “openness,” has been downloaded and used by 1.5 million people around the world since then.
Glasnost mimics data transfers using the Bit Torrent file-sharing protocol, and then measures whether operators are slowing uploads and downloads. Consumers around the world have used it to test the service of landline broadband operators. Glasnost only works on a few smartphones so far.
The latest results, based on 121,247 tests run from January through October, suggest that throttling is being done everywhere in the world. The results for each operator may not be representative, for several reasons. The sample sizes for each operator vary, from 36,000 in the case of NTT Docomo of Japan, to just a hundred for smaller ones. There is also a 4 percent to 5 percent chance of “false positives” — indications that throttling is being done when it is not.
But that aside, Glasnost cast light on the practice of throttling, which operators are reluctant to discuss in detail beyond confirming, in standard service contracts, that they use it.
In the United States, throttling was detected in 23 percent of tests on telecom and cable-television broadband networks, less than the global average of 32 percent. The U.S. operators with higher levels of detected throttling included Insight Communications, a cable-television operator in New York, Kentucky, Indiana and Ohio, where throttling was detected in 38 percent of tests; and Clearwire Communications, where throttling was detected in 35 percent of the tests.
Throttling was detected in 18 percent of tests on Verizon’s landline network and in 30 percent of tests run on AT&T WorldNet Services, the company’s consumer broadband network. Throttling on AT&T’s business network, SBIS-AS AT&T Internet Service, was 18 percent.
In Europe, throttling appeared to be most common in Britain. Slowing was detected on 74 percent of tests done on BT’s British regional network. Positive tests for throttling also exceeded 50 percent for six other British operators: NTL, Opal Telecom, Telewest Broadband, Carphone Warehouse Broadband Service, Tiscali U.K. and Pipex.
In France, throttling appeared to be less common. Positive tests didn’t exceed 21 percent among France Télécom’s Orange service, Neuf Cegetel, Numericable and Proxad. In Germany, it was even rarer, at levels of less than 16 percent for almost every operator including Deutsche Telekom. (I tested Glasnost on my Deutsche Telekom network in Berlin and it showed no throttling.) The one exception: Kabel Deutschland, the biggest’s domestic cable TV operator, showed throttling detected in 44 percent of 393 tests.
In Japan, NTT Docomo employed throttling in 49 percent of 471 tests, according to Glasnost. GigaInfra Broadband and Vectant had positive tests in 30 percent and 38 percent of tests, respectively. In Canada, where the population is much more spread out, and networks must cover vast territory, throttling appeared more common. It was measured in 85 percent of tests on Rogers Communications’ network and 64 percent of tests on Bell Canada.
In other parts of the world, frequent throttling was detected in smaller operators, which often have less money to build high-capacity networks. Those included: the Dubai-based Emirates Integrated Telecommunications, operator of the Du network, with 90 percent; Toya, a cable operator in Lodz, Poland, with 88 percent; TeleCentro of Argentina, with 87 percent; RLE Elisa in Estonia, with 85 percent; ASN AtHome, a Hong Kong-based cable TV operator, with 83 percent; TM Net of Malaysia, with 78 percent; Magix of Singapore, 63 percent; Cabo TVM of Portugal, 62 percent; and Bezeq of Israel, 59 percent.
Former monopolies like Telefónica of Spain, Telecom Italia, KPN of Netherlands, Telstra of Australia, Telia of Sweden, Belgacom of Belgium and Eircom of Ireland, which all still operate the largest landline networks in their countries, generally used throttling less frequently — perhaps because they didn’t have to, on their extensive networks.
Their rates of detected throttling, respectively, according to Glasnost, were: 19 percent for Telefónica and Telecom Italia, 18 percent for KPN, 34 percent for Telstra, 14 percent for Telia, 13 percent for Belgacom and 15 percent for Eircom.
In general, the Glasnost results suggest that telecom and cable TV operators, when they do use throttling, do so mostly to suppress bandwidth hogs and ensure a reasonable experience for all of their customers. Mr. Dischinger, now a computer engineer in Innsbruck, Austria, said throttling was much more commonly used by operators of mobile phone networks, which have much less capacity than landline grids.
But with operators starting to sell superfast landline broadband service for heavy data users, such as Deutsche Telekom’s high-speed fiber-to-the-home service, the competition for bandwidth — and the need for throttling — will only increase, Mr. Dischinger said.
“I highly doubt it can go on forever,” Mr. Dischinger said. “I cannot envision with the current network infrastructure they have that operators can continue to support people in the long term without more investment.”
Pues qué bien. Y ahora, ¿qué?
#2 Me parece a mí, que visto la "limitada" clase política que tenemos, solo nos queda dar difusión a noticias como ésta, darnos de baja, e informar a la empresa del motivo, preferiblemente en grupo. Y así, algún día, determinados comportamientos, desaparecerán.
#20 Goto #3 #16 Parece ser que darse de baja es lo único a lo que reaccionan, por desgracia no todo el mundo lo hace, ni está informado de la problemática...
#2 ...Pues que ahora Movistar ralentizará el precio del ADSL.
Que no estamos por lo que hay que estar.
#2 #39 #NoLesCompres
#2 Cada vez es mas barato montar redes inalámbricas de área amplia con WiMax y tecnologías así. Cuando se quieran dar cuenta, tienen una competencia del copón.
Todos los clientes indignados, por favor vayan a indignarse en el 1004 en lugar de indignarse en los comentarios de Meneame.
¿Esto es un concurso de obviedades? Esque soy muy competitivo, ¿sabe?
Estoy por votar errónea, Cierto, hay ralentización, pero NO es del 19% sino que el 19% de los test han resultado positivos, teniendo en cuenta que da entre un 4 y un 5% de falsos positivos no parece que se pueda decir que Telefónica cape el P2P por políticas. Puede que exista ralentización en determinados momentos, pero no como política generalizada, al menos no al nivel de otras compañías.
Pues según el NYT Vomistar es de las que menos usan el método, diciendo que posiblemente es porque no está aun implementado en toda su red. (Cosa en la que aciertan)
"Former monopolies like Telefónica of Spain, Telecom Italia, KPN of Netherlands, Telstra of Australia, Telia of Sweden, Belgacom of Belgium and Eircom of Ireland, which all still operate the largest landline networks in their countries, generally used throttling less frequently"
En todo caso el NYT no ha descubierto NADA que no se haya dicho y demostrado mucho antes en meneame (si, aquí) y sin usar el Glasnost:
Blogers franceses amenazados de muerte por revelar el uso de Deep Packet Inspection [FRA]/c2#c-2
Ser anónimo y defender a tu pueblo es ilegal/c3#c-3
¿Tu P2P se desboca? Nostros tenemos el domador
¿Tu P2P se desboca? Nostros tenemos el domador
arstechnica.comLlevamos avisando de lo del "deep packet inspection" para la detección de protocolos (incluso en tramas cifradas) y desvío de P2P y stream de video a nodos de baja velocidad y la gente tomándoselo a guasa y diciendo que era imposible.
Y es fácil detectar las cosas, por ejemplo el proxy que mete Vomistar para regular la velocidad de la descarga de videos:
TRACERT youtube.com
1
#46 ¿Serías tan amable de explicarnos cómo has deducido que el enrutador del salto 6 de tu traza se dedica a regular la velocidad de descarga de datos de vídeo?
La inspección de paquetes no es sólo una cuestión técnica, sino también de recursos y costes. En general, es más barato el ancho de banda que una infraestructura dedicada a tareas de inspección.
#59 Siempre y cuando no existan leyes que te obliguen a guardar determinados datos durante X tiempo por si "alguien" los requiere. El DPI se implanta no porque lo quieran las operadoras.
¿Os acordáis de que ONO capaba el P2P? Pues yo en casa con la de 50/5 no hay capado, me he llegado a bajar cosas del Emule a 2Mb/s y del Bittorrent a 5Mb/s.
Creo que una vez me bajé el 6x01 de Dexter con el Utorrent en 2 minutos, la versión de 720P, ojo.
Va siendo hora de que pasemos todos de timofónica.
Yo después de usar el bittorrent un buen rato, me toca resetear el router.
Hijos de puta.
Últimamente Telefónica ha estado cobrando el 100% de las facturas mensuales que me han enviado.
Si continúan cobrándolas a este ritmo, me veré obligado a desacelerar el pago de las facturas al 50% del importe de la factura durante periodos de mayor demanda de mi dinero, ya que es lo justo para los otros proveedores de otros servicios que también requieren una porción de mis limitados recursos.
Con el sistema de priorización desplegado, que sólo debería de afectar al 1% de la parte superior de mis acreedores, todo el mundo podrá continuar disfrutando de mis "ilimitados" pagos.
Obvio, el mismo servicio técnico te recomienda que vayas a la descarga directa, que el bitorrent lo tienen capado. Me pregunto que negocio tendrá telefónica con las descargas directas.
#18 Juas, te voy a dar una pista. El servicio de Megaupload (que por cierto, como compañía está registrada en China) lo lleva Carpathia Hosting [1], una empresa de Virginia, en Estados Unidos. Pues bien, Carpathia es conocida por ofrecer servicios de almacenamiento para gobiernos y administraciones [2], y se de buena tinta (lo siento, de esto no te puedo dar referencias, asi que te lo puedes creer o no) que gobiernos como el de Francia o España son clientes suyos. Hora de ponerse el gorrito de papel albal en la cabeza.
[1] http://www.carpathia.com
[2] http://www.carpathia.com/governmentsolutions/index.html
Debo ser un bicho raro. Estoy encantado con Telefónica. El torrent me va fenómeno, el otro día bajando una distro de Ubuntu iba a tope de descarga...Tengo llamadas a móvil y 10 megas por 20 € mas la linea e IVA. Seguro que hay más barato, pero estos no me han fallado nunca. Otros (Orange) que tenía antes estuvieron dos meses toreándome una incidencia y al final la única solución fue cambiarme a Telefónica.
Lo siento
Lo peor es que encima mienten con lo de que el P2P les perjudica. Especialmente por los llamados acuerdos de tráfico tipo "peering":
http://www.internautas.org/html/6794.html
Salu2
Pues nada, todos a jazztel.
¿Alguien ha visto el NYTimes para confirmar lo que dice?
Me pide registro.
#5 prueba este : http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/14/technology/putting-the-brakes-on-web-surfing-speeds.html
#7 Gracias
#11 Ya, lo vi gracias a #7. Gracias, de todas formas.
#5 Con el enlace de Barrapunto al Times te pide password, pero si vas de Barrapunto a Slashdot, y desde allí al Times sí que te deja
#5 Noticia original, al parecer lo hacen muchísimas operadoras; http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/14/technology/putting-the-brakes-on-web-surfing-speeds.html?pagewanted=2&_r=4
Former monopolies like Telefónica of Spain, Telecom Italia, KPN of Netherlands, Telstra of Australia, Telia of Sweden, Belgacom of Belgium and Eircom of Ireland, which all still operate the largest landline networks in their countries, generally used throttling less frequently — perhaps because they didn’t have to, on their extensive networks.
El link hace referencia a la página 2 del artículo, en la página 1 habla de más operadoras.
Lo sabía de ONO, y lo sufrí. Pero desde que me pasé a Telefónica, el torrent me baja a 900kb/s. YouTube si que se nota que esta restringido a ciertas horas del día.
Evidente: filtrado, chequeo de paquetes y logeo de información. Lo dejan pasar, pero lo "apuntan".
Sí, eso que Bruselas ha dicho que es ilegal.
Siento decirlo pero a mi megaupload siempre me va al maximo, a mi lo que me jode son los microcortes en los juegos que hacen que nunca jamás baje de 60ms(lo mas normal 70-110), mientras que observo como muchos vecinos europeos jueguen a 20-30. Lo de youtube si que lo observo bastante
Me temo que es un secreto a voces. La cuestión es, ¿qué se puede hacer para que dejen de capar? Porque con la vergüenza de que un medio tradicional les haya pillado con las manos en la masa no hacemos nada, esta gente tienen el careto de titanio reforzado.
vamos, la novedad
Y que se puede hacer al respecto?
A ver si miran ONO también, que si bien es lo mejorcito de España, me choca que todas todas todas las paginas de video vayan como el culo, mientras que para megaupload es frecuente experimentar descargas de 1500 para arriba para paginas de video rara vez pasa de los 200.
Titular alternativo: Movistar figura entre las operadoras que menos filtra el tráfico P2P
Cansino ya: Cinco ISP españoles señalados por el test anticapado P2P de Google
Cinco ISP españoles señalados por el test anticapa...
bandaancha.euPues a mí el bittorrent me baja a tope siempre. Hablo de torrents con muchos seeds, claro.
A mí personalmente creo que es algo que no me ocurre. Creo que aprovecho bastante el ancho de banda para mis circunstancias. Pero que lo harán, seguro.
y se creerán que han descubierto algo que ya saben hasta en la luna
Cada vez pienso más seriamente que este país no compensa.
Teléfonica hace lo mismo en Argentina. A mí me ralentizan tanto Megaupload que no lo puedo usar...
Yo estoy mi contento con mi compañía, 6 megas más llamadas: 30€
No capa el youtube, ni megaupload, ni P2P ni nada, es más, para asegurarse de que la conexión da la velocidad correcta, hacen un test de velocidad (15ms de ping) y ponen un vídeo a 720p para que veas como "vuela".
Asco de timofónica.
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Captan en video tortura de supuesto policía a un detenido
http://www.ennoticias.net/insolito/captan-en-video-tortura-de-supuesto-policia-detenido/
pues a mi no me lo ralentiza... de momento.
no se de que os asustais. Estos hacen lo que quieren y encima les pagamos, se quejan al gobierno y les hacen caso, pero te quejas tu y te dan por detrás.
No hay nadie que les controle ni les sancione. Simplemente vergonzoso
Nunca una compañía "nacional" dio tanto asco.
ralentiza? o sea, que no lo impide, simplemente jode... pero hay algo que no haga telefónica que no sea or joder?
¿y es telefónica o el partner que le suministra el acceso a la red? por que en cable R capan Youtube. Se nota al ver videos de youtube a 1040p o 720p por que la descarga va a tirones. Descargas x megas, se detiene unos instantes, vuelve a descargar otros x megas, vuelve a detenerse y asi periódicamente. A resoluciones bajas no sucede.
intereses puntuales, nada que no sepamos.
No han descubierto nada nuevo, entiendo que nos sintamos un "poco" estafados cuando movistar hace esto, pero... las infraestructuras de España en telecomunicaciones son las que son, y de no ralentizar el P2P a determinadas horas, haría casi imposible el navegar de una forma fluida.
Así que el problema es la infraestructura, y mejorarla en puertas a una nueva tecnología inalámbrica o por la red eléctrica, quizás no sea una inversión muy inteligente a largo plazo.
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